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Trump Dishes Out Another Avalanche of Tariffs.

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Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 12:20:13

True enough Casdon but there are many there who idolise him, especially for all the macho stuff and man of the people act.There’s even a calendar to buy with Putin riding a horse with his chest bare and other outdoorsy stuff.

Casdon Sat 02-Aug-25 11:52:39

Oreo

On Putin, a lot of Russians think he’s the best thing since sliced bread and do vote for him time after time, tho with little opposition there and probably much vote rigging and corruption I think we can safely say that yes he’s a dictator.
That isn’t the case with Trump, he also has a big fan base, the opposition wasn’t popular, Kamala Harris, but even so he only just managed to come out on top.The US voting system is fair and above board.
Therefore he isn’t a dictator any more than POTUS’s in the past were. He didn’t win the election before this one.
We may not like him or his choices but that doesn’t make him a dictator.
Any POTUS has a lot of power.

I doubt there are many brave enough to say they oppose Putin though, who wants to fall to their death out of a window, be poisoned, or be sent to Siberia?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Aug-25 11:25:10

Now Trump is threatening to sack the Fed. Governor unless he lowers interest rates.

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 11:16:01

On Putin, a lot of Russians think he’s the best thing since sliced bread and do vote for him time after time, tho with little opposition there and probably much vote rigging and corruption I think we can safely say that yes he’s a dictator.
That isn’t the case with Trump, he also has a big fan base, the opposition wasn’t popular, Kamala Harris, but even so he only just managed to come out on top.The US voting system is fair and above board.
Therefore he isn’t a dictator any more than POTUS’s in the past were. He didn’t win the election before this one.
We may not like him or his choices but that doesn’t make him a dictator.
Any POTUS has a lot of power.

MaizieD Sat 02-Aug-25 11:05:00

Oreo

ayse

He will continue to take plenty of no notice to anyone. He is a dictator

Shall we stick to the facts, he isn’t a dictator, he was voted in as President in a democratic country.
He may wish to be one but that’s another matter.

Although definitions of 'dictator' tend to say that a dictator is unelected that seems to me to be inaccurate.

Encyclopedia Britannica says this:

dictatorship, form of government in which one person or a small group possesses absolute power without effective constitutional limitations. The term dictatorship comes from the Latin title dictator, which in the Roman Republic designated a temporary magistrate who was granted extraordinary powers in order to deal with state crises. Modern dictators, however, resemble ancient tyrants rather than ancient dictators. Ancient philosophers’ descriptions of the tyrannies of Greece and Sicily go far toward characterizing modern dictatorships. Dictators usually resort to force or fraud to gain despotic political power, which they maintain through the use of intimidation, terror, and the suppression of basic civil liberties. They may also employ techniques of mass propaganda in order to sustain their public support.

No mention of exactly how the power was gained in the first place, just that it is absolute power without effective constitutional limitations. This looks very like Trump's hold on the US at the moment.

Putin is regularly re-elected. Does that make him not a dictator?

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 09:44:45

Switzerland are now feeling the pinch, as the new tariff there will be 39%.
We have got off very lightly here fortunately, at 10%.

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 09:43:08

ayse

He will continue to take plenty of no notice to anyone. He is a dictator

Shall we stick to the facts, he isn’t a dictator, he was voted in as President in a democratic country.
He may wish to be one but that’s another matter.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Aug-25 02:08:31

Naturally his tariffs have destabilised the market, and the economic indicators in the USA are not looking good, a fall in employment being one.

So bad in fact that Trump has sacked the person responsible for producing economic USA data 😄😄😄.

Casdon Fri 01-Aug-25 18:53:18

It’s worrying though, because it’s destabilising for the world, as well as pushing up prices. I feel for ordinary American people too because the policy is pushing up prices, and his measures don’t seem to be benefitting them.
edition.cnn.com/2025/08/01/economy/us-jobs-report-july

ayse Fri 01-Aug-25 17:23:17

He will continue to take plenty of no notice to anyone. He is a dictator

imaround Fri 01-Aug-25 17:20:28

His tariffs might be in trouble if a Federal court rules against him.

Not that it matters. I can't think of a single law or norms he has adhered to yet.

And now he is spending $200 million of his own money to build a ballroom in the White House. wonder how much rent he is going to charge us? confused

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 01-Aug-25 12:19:10

He's busy with sleight of hand to distract all those asking
" Show us the Epstein files"

keepingquiet Fri 01-Aug-25 09:18:38

He'll chicken out- he always does...

windmill1 Fri 01-Aug-25 09:11:23

And the stock markets have responded by falling.

He's like the greedy kid with the keys to the World Sweetie Shop - uncontrollable. How on earth he got elected.........