Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

Annie, how patronising and wrong to say this 'Whitewave calm down please,'

so many of us are finding it increasingly impossible when facing your total denial of the atrocities perpetrated now, in Gaza, the West Bank and all over Palestine.

Anniebach

Defenders - plural. Defender - singular

But that isn’t my quote🙄

It's bad enough if it is just one voice Whitewave but I believe it is many.

Defenders - plural. Defender - singular

Whitewavemark2

They are extreme settlers, although Michael Rosen has posted a speech given by the Chief Rabbi of France which is pretty horrific.

JVL Introduction
Just when you think the depravity of Israel’s defenders has reached rock bottom, along comes the Chief Rabbi of France, Haim Korsia, justifying the Gaza massacres in terms that chill the blood.

In response to a French TV interviewer asking if he condemned the massacres in Gaza as he did the Israeli deaths on 7 October, Korsia said: “They are not of the same order.”

Palestinian lives – of fathers, mothers, old people, teenagers, children, infants – are “not of the same order” as Israeli lives. They do not weigh as much in the scale of humanity. They can be discounted.

Where in this post do I suggest that it is the voice of many?

I think that this is how Palestinians are seen by some members of the Knesset. They have wanted Gaza cleansed of them from the start.

Whitewave calm down please, you cannot say words from one man are words from many .

If so I can quote the words of Hamas to kill all Jews are shared
with all Palestinians?

It's appalling inhumanity. I listened to an IDF Captain who had been imprisoned for refusing to fight despite having served several terms during this conflict. He said what so many of us have said, that this war is being continued to try to save Netanyahu's neck rather than for acceptable reasons of self defence. Just totally disgusting and the behaviour of settlers, who are attacking aid trucks to prevent them entering Gaza is unbelievable behaviour. Using the excuse that the vile events of 7/10 justify this mass killing and starving of a population is morally reprehensible. I have no sympathy for Hamas and tbh I have none for Netanyahu and his right wing extremists either, they are all vile excuses for human beings.

Anniebach

There is video of Hamas terrorists climbing on aid trucks waving guns

Two wrongs don't make a right.

They are extreme settlers, although Michael Rosen has posted a speech given by the Chief Rabbi of France which is pretty horrific.

JVL Introduction
Just when you think the depravity of Israel’s defenders has reached rock bottom, along comes the Chief Rabbi of France, Haim Korsia, justifying the Gaza massacres in terms that chill the blood.

In response to a French TV interviewer asking if he condemned the massacres in Gaza as he did the Israeli deaths on 7 October, Korsia said: “They are not of the same order.”

Palestinian lives – of fathers, mothers, old people, teenagers, children, infants – are “not of the same order” as Israeli lives. They do not weigh as much in the scale of humanity. They can be discounted.

There is video of Hamas terrorists climbing on aid trucks waving guns

There's video (not verified admittedly) of aid trucks from Jordan crossing through Israel towards Gaza being hijacked by Israelis, sitting in the road chanting “may Palestine’s name be wiped out” (in Hebrew). Jordan certainly believes it happened two days in a row because it's issued an official condemnation. What kind of people do that?

Oreo

AGAA4

Israel Security Cabinet is meeting over a plan to occupy Gaza completely. There is opposition from the leaders of the IDF and other ministers. They say this would endanger the hostages and the Gazan people.
Trump says it's up to Israel to decide what to do.
Netanyahu's plan is almost complete.

Since BN has to listen to advice from Army chiefs and other top military he cannot decide alone and will have to carry others with him.
It may go any way.

I would hate to be one of those IDF senior chiefs. I would be torn between my duty to my country and my conscience.

Yeah yeah! I know we're not supposed to compare this with WW2, but it really is like Hitler during the last few months - except, of course, Netanyahu has won the military battle. He's never going to destroy the ideology, even if he kills every single remaining Hamas soldier. He could be responsible for the death of the hostages, will certainly be responsible for the deaths of more Palestinians and probably IDF troops. Palestinians won't forget this for generations to come.

I'd like to think he'll listen to his military chiefs, but I honestly think he's flipped.

I can’t believe that people are denying that this is happening. I feel as if I’m in some sort of alternative universe

Me too MayBee.

Whitewavemark2

AGAA4

Israel Security Cabinet is meeting over a plan to occupy Gaza completely. There is opposition from the leaders of the IDF and other ministers. They say this would endanger the hostages and the Gazan people.
Trump says it's up to Israel to decide what to do.
Netanyahu's plan is almost complete.

It has already begun I think, as there has been so many atrocities in Gaza city during the past couple of days.

The pictures are dreadful.

I can’t believe that people are denying that this is happening. I feel as if I’m in some sort of alternative universe.

Surely it will go to a vote ?

AGAA4

Israel Security Cabinet is meeting over a plan to occupy Gaza completely. There is opposition from the leaders of the IDF and other ministers. They say this would endanger the hostages and the Gazan people.
Trump says it's up to Israel to decide what to do.
Netanyahu's plan is almost complete.

Since BN has to listen to advice from Army chiefs and other top military he cannot decide alone and will have to carry others with him.
It may go any way.

The evidence is growing to a tsunami

“In MSF’s nearly 54 years of operations, rarely have we seen such levels of systematic violence against unarmed civilians.”

The GHF-run food distributions in Gaza, Palestine, have become sites of “orchestrated killing and dehumanisation”, not humanitarian aid.”

AGAA4

Israel Security Cabinet is meeting over a plan to occupy Gaza completely. There is opposition from the leaders of the IDF and other ministers. They say this would endanger the hostages and the Gazan people.
Trump says it's up to Israel to decide what to do.
Netanyahu's plan is almost complete.

It has already begun I think, as there has been so many atrocities in Gaza city during the past couple of days.

The pictures are dreadful.

Israel Security Cabinet is meeting over a plan to occupy Gaza completely. There is opposition from the leaders of the IDF and other ministers. They say this would endanger the hostages and the Gazan people.
Trump says it's up to Israel to decide what to do.
Netanyahu's plan is almost complete.

That’s not exactly proven, and how many of the reservists who ‘refused’ service ( you can’t just choose) were able to avoid service for any medical condition ( there are a number of things ) or were from a very religious sect ( they do refuse military service).

Israeli media estimated the attendance rate of soldiers hovering around 50%percent or even at 40% percent or lower. According to Restart Israel, a movement advocating for a democratic Israel, nearly 12,000 reservists have refused over the course of the war.

Yes, the figure needs to be verified.

They face prison then.

Quote Whitewavemark2 Thu 07-Aug-25 16:21:26
Between 50% and 60% of reservists are refusing to report for duty

Where can this be checked