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Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

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posset Mon 04-Aug-25 10:46:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

Much as I dislike Trump I believe he might have enough influence to achieve this.

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 10:49:34

I agree posset but I'm not confident that he'll do so.

Anniebach Mon 04-Aug-25 10:53:25

Much like “sources close to “

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 10:58:24

confused what do you mean Annie?

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 13:28:03

I have little faith in Trump. I don't think he will do anything as there will be money involved.
There are a lot of powerful wealthy Jews in the US.

Anniebach Mon 04-Aug-25 13:53:45

Quote AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 13:28:03
I have little faith in Trump. I don't think he will do anything as there will be money involved.
There are a lot of powerful wealthy Jews in the US.

Wealthy Jews was a reason Hitler put to Germany,

SillyNanny321 Mon 04-Aug-25 13:56:21

Why do so many people hate anyone Jewish? Had this when I started work after school & 65 years on it is still the same!

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 14:26:20

SillyNanny321

Why do so many people hate anyone Jewish? Had this when I started work after school & 65 years on it is still the same!

This is nothing to do with hating Jews! It's the Israeli government who are using genocide to rid Gaza of Palestinians that need to be stopped.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Aug-25 14:26:49

SillyNanny321

Why do so many people hate anyone Jewish? Had this when I started work after school & 65 years on it is still the same!

I think you are muddling anti-semitism, with disagreeing with the actions of the Israeli state.

They are two quite distinct.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Aug-25 14:35:05

Mind you that isn’t to say the anti-semitism does not exist.

Most minorities experience racism - Jews, Muslims, blacks, immigrants etc.

It seems to ebb and flow over time. Until there is a massive level of education and the ability to stop it in its tracks, it will continue unfortunately.

valdavi Mon 04-Aug-25 14:35:06

America, probably Trump alone, could definitely stop the war. In their viewpoint there are still reasons for allowing Israel to continue.
I'm not sure what respect Trump accords ex-officials - he has a few of them of his own, & they all went from being "a very good man" to being "a bad man, very poor judgement, etc etc" the minute they left. (or were pushed).

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Aug-25 14:47:05

Whitewavemark2

SillyNanny321

Why do so many people hate anyone Jewish? Had this when I started work after school & 65 years on it is still the same!

I think you are muddling anti-semitism, with disagreeing with the actions of the Israeli state.

They are two quite distinct.

And if you actually think about it, the fact that people do not seem to understand the difference - this has caused the current rise in anti-semitism.

I also think that Jews must also understand that criticising the Israeli government is not anti-semitism either, they may then feel more comfortable with people disagreeing with a foreign power, which is Israel.

Anniebach Mon 04-Aug-25 14:56:53

And if you actually think about it, the fact that people do not seem to understand the difference - this has caused the current rise in anti-semitism.

I also think that Jews must also understand that criticising the Israeli government is not anti-semitism either, they may then feel more comfortable with people disagreeing with a foreign power, which is Israel.

No *Whitewave” , I am sure Jews have better and more understanding of antisemitism than you , they have no need to understand, they live their life with it

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:01:24

A tad ironic there annie 😄

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:01:56

Many Israelis want this war to end and the hostages brought home.
Netanyahu and his top team aren't listening.

Anniebach Mon 04-Aug-25 15:12:14

Quote AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:01:56
Many Israelis want this war to end and the hostages brought home.
Netanyahu and his top team aren't listening.

Many Israelis do not want this war to end and hostages brought home

Which is true ?

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:20:37

A poll suggested that 83% of Israelis want an end to the war.

Anniebach Mon 04-Aug-25 15:24:38

Quote AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:20:37
A poll suggested that 83% of Israelis want an end to the war.

Thank you, a suggestion isn’t a fact , my reply post certainly wasn’t a fact . We all want an end to the war surely

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 15:30:27

SillyNanny321

Why do so many people hate anyone Jewish? Had this when I started work after school & 65 years on it is still the same!

It’s no good asking that , all you get are ‘Oh it’s just the Israeli government’ blah blah.
Nobody will ever admit they don’t like Jews will they? In spite of antisemitism being rife.The very left wing of the Labour Party is a hotbed of it.At least Starmer did his best to push them underground when he became Leader.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 15:35:59

AGAA4

A poll suggested that 83% of Israelis want an end to the war.

Israelis do want an end to the war because they don’t want their sons and daughters injured or killed in service and they want their citizens who were taken hostage back.
That’s natural.

Baggs Mon 04-Aug-25 15:52:10

America, probably Trump alone, could definitely stop the war.

How?

In their viewpoint there are still reasons for allowing Israel to continue.

Whose viewpoint?

And is Hamas not handing over all the Israeli hostages when they had a chance (ceasefire) to do so a good reason or not?

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:52:36

So what you are saying Oreo is that because some of us don't like what Netanyahu is doing we are antisemitic?
It's the usual excuse to stop people speaking out about the situation in Gaza.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 15:53:40

I have no idea as to who is antisemitic or not.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 15:55:09

It hasn’t stopped anyone speaking out about Gaza has it?

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 15:56:19

No! Thank goodness!