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Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

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posset Mon 04-Aug-25 10:46:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

Much as I dislike Trump I believe he might have enough influence to achieve this.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 20:04:05

I really really don’t like Trump but I think he was just running his mouth off when he was describing how Gaza could be a real destination place in the future.He has been very quiet about that ever since.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:59:39

It seems that the Israeli experts no longer deem Hamas to be a strategic threat, and yet Netanyahu is intent on expanding the military activity.

Unfortunately I very much doubt that Trump will take any action to stop Netanyahu - largely because the end result of genocide will mean a whole real estate opportunity for his grasping family.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:55:07

Then why include that in the post to me huh?

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:49:23

My mistake, your post @ 19.10 was to AGAA in which you said "I do accept it as you refuse to say more and make a mystery of it" so I may have used the wrong name but my post stands.

I didn't say you had made posts suggesting that some are Hamas supporters; do you read posts or not?

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:44:14

Further to that Smileless2012 FYI I have never made posts that suggest members are hamas supporters.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:41:25

I didn’t imply anything I just said the truth that on a forum I can’t know if anyone is anti semitic.
It seems obvious to me.
Smileless2012 do you read posts or not? I haven’t said a thing about Claremont
I asked AGAA4 a simple question is all, as she shared the info that she had experienced antisemitism, as have I and just about all Jewish people have at times. She doesn’t want to answer so we will leave it.

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:33:15

Your comment about those if us who are against the Israeli government implied we are antisemitic. And it was you who typed blah blah and call me childish!

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:32:29

Atrocities are being committed on a daily basis by the Israeli government.

There have been numerous 'suggestions' that some posters are antisemitic including accusations that a poster was driven away from GN because she's Jewish as well as posts 'suggesting' that some are Hamas supporters.

Claremont just like all of us has the right to only disclose information about herself, as and when she chooses to do so without being accused of making a mystery of it.

This thread is becoming increasingly unpleasant.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:32:21

If posters are so sure of their own arguments then why feel the need to be childish to those who have different views?

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:29:04

AGAA4

Oreo your post at 15.30 says it all.The blah blah bit.

In the playground again I see.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:28:05

I have been honest about being Jewish, and I know there are others on the forum that don’t like to say ( how shocking is that?!)
AGAA4 says that she has been on the receiving end of antisemitism so it’s not rocket science to assume that she is Jewish.But apparently that assumption isn’t correct.🤔

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:26:36

Oreo your post at 15.30 says it all.The blah blah bit.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:24:56

valdavi

Of course you don't, AGAA4.Oreo's remark borderline offensive imo.

Offensive how exactly?

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:24:34

Antisemitism is everywhere and has rocketed since October 7th two years ago.
I suspect strongly that a lot of those on the marches are guilty of it.
That doesn’t mean all on the marches are.
On a forum I can’t possibly know if people are or not.

valdavi Mon 04-Aug-25 19:24:05

Of course you don't, AGAA4.Oreo's remark borderline offensive imo.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:20:00

Nothing has ‘shut down’ debate around the war in Gaza and I wouldn’t have expected it to.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:18:50

Claremont

Oreo

I have no idea as to who is antisemitic or not.

But you have ccused many of us of being antisemitic. As said above, I do not believe a single person here who has spoken about this diabolical genocide in Gaza, is antisemitic. Not a single one.

It has become evident, all over the world not just GN, thar accusations of antisemitism has become an 'offcial' way of shutting down all debate and discussion. It no longer works now, as people are aware.

No I have not accused many of you of anti semitism, indeed I have been careful not to, so don’t twist words to suit yourself.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:17:17

AGAA4

I don't actually have to say anything Oreo or explain anything either.

Of course you don’t, but you gave a very odd statement.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:16:38

The two million people are not being treated as sub human.
What conflict brings aid in to the people? It may not be enough but do you see Egypt doing it? Do you see Egypt opening the border to take in refugees?

AGAA4 Mon 04-Aug-25 19:15:06

I don't actually have to say anything Oreo or explain anything either.

Claremont Mon 04-Aug-25 19:14:45

Oreo

I have no idea as to who is antisemitic or not.

But you have ccused many of us of being antisemitic. As said above, I do not believe a single person here who has spoken about this diabolical genocide in Gaza, is antisemitic. Not a single one.

It has become evident, all over the world not just GN, thar accusations of antisemitism has become an 'offcial' way of shutting down all debate and discussion. It no longer works now, as people are aware.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:14:05

valdavi

6 thousand Gazans "went to war" "committed terrorist atrocities" (take your pick) on Oct 7th '23.

Quite a lot, but why are 2 million men women and children being treated as subhuman (and the world stands by and watches) because of this?

Going to war isn’t descending in the early hours of a morning on innocent people in their beds.Unarmed ones.
With no prior statement of war being given.
The only description are terrorists committing atrocities.

Oreo Mon 04-Aug-25 19:10:43

AGAA4

Oreo

You didn’t say you were Jewish before now AGAA4 why was that?

I have explained before and have no intention of going through it again on here. Just know that I have a loathing for antisemitism or any other bias that causes people misery.
That's how I feel. Please accept it.

I do accept it as you refuse to say more and make a mystery of it.
All you had to say was yes I’m Jewish or no I’m not.🤔

Smileless2012 Mon 04-Aug-25 18:29:55

2 million men women and children (are) being treated as subhuman because the world stands by and watches.

valdavi Mon 04-Aug-25 18:17:23

6 thousand Gazans "went to war" "committed terrorist atrocities" (take your pick) on Oct 7th '23.

Quite a lot, but why are 2 million men women and children being treated as subhuman (and the world stands by and watches) because of this?