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Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

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posset Mon 04-Aug-25 10:46:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

Much as I dislike Trump I believe he might have enough influence to achieve this.

Anniebach Thu 11-Sept-25 10:05:45

Quote Maremia Thu 11-Sept-25 09:32:54
Meanwhile in the UK, Gary Linekar believes his success at the TV awards, voted by the public, was because he spoke out.
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There is a big difference AnnieB between 'moving people to a safe place' and moving them away from where they have lived for generations at gunpoint. The latter is the reality...move or you die.

He spoke out ? with using rat emoji in a tweet ? he won with a public vote for an antisemitism tweet

Oreo Thu 11-Sept-25 09:46:02

Still and all, I’d rather pack up and move than risk death, wouldn’t everyone?

Maremia Thu 11-Sept-25 09:32:54

Meanwhile in the UK, Gary Linekar believes his success at the TV awards, voted by the public, was because he spoke out.
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There is a big difference AnnieB between 'moving people to a safe place' and moving them away from where they have lived for generations at gunpoint. The latter is the reality...move or you die.

Anniebach Thu 11-Sept-25 08:50:30

Oreo Thu 11-Sept-25 08:22:32
Every one on here seems to have swallowed the ‘starving’ line pushed by hamas propaganda.
On the front page of The Guardian today is a piece by a young Gaza City woman.She says it’s her sister’s birthday and they started the day with coffee and jokes, and would have gone on to bake cakes and biscuits but instead they have to leave the city and go to a safety location in the South.
Think about this, when did you actually see any person including children with their family who looks emaciated? If you enlarge any pic from Gaza and look carefully then you won’t find any.
What you have seen are babies, and a few children with medical serious problems in hospitals.Usually with a plump faced mother.
What there is in Gaza is food insecurity but that’s not a starving population.
Don’t dismiss this as it doesn’t fit with your mindset, actually look for real evidence.

I so agree and have said so many times there is no starvation in Gaza, the few photographs does not show millions starvingand
Moving the citizens to a safe location is not genocide

Oreo Thu 11-Sept-25 08:23:37

foxie48

Tbh I'm not surprised that increasingly Jews are stating that they don't support what is happening in Gaza. IMO it's become impossible for anyone to defend the actions of the Israeli government even if you are Jewish.

Nope, it isn’t.

Oreo Thu 11-Sept-25 08:22:32

Every one on here seems to have swallowed the ‘starving’ line pushed by hamas propaganda.
On the front page of The Guardian today is a piece by a young Gaza City woman.She says it’s her sister’s birthday and they started the day with coffee and jokes, and would have gone on to bake cakes and biscuits but instead they have to leave the city and go to a safety location in the South.
Think about this, when did you actually see any person including children with their family who looks emaciated? If you enlarge any pic from Gaza and look carefully then you won’t find any.
What you have seen are babies, and a few children with medical serious problems in hospitals.Usually with a plump faced mother.
What there is in Gaza is food insecurity but that’s not a starving population.
Don’t dismiss this as it doesn’t fit with your mindset, actually look for real evidence.

foxie48 Thu 11-Sept-25 07:47:40

Tbh I'm not surprised that increasingly Jews are stating that they don't support what is happening in Gaza. IMO it's become impossible for anyone to defend the actions of the Israeli government even if you are Jewish.

Anniebach Thu 11-Sept-25 04:02:38

There are 5.7 million Devout Jews estimated in America, total number of Jews estimated 7.5 million,

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 23:39:43

Correction, I realised that T'ruah I snot her name, but the group.

www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1224078733094412&id=100064768898526&set=a.423317889837171

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 23:37:30

My attitude has hardened since we begun discussions on the issue. Especially as many Jewish people are coming out in support, thinking of the number of Rabbi in New York who demonstrated, and in addition Jewish people are suffering anti semitism as a result. All wrong, so wrong.

A lady called T'ruah posted on Facebook as follows and the picture is of her. July 29th and its got worse.

"Last night, a minyan of T'ruah rabbis wearing tallitot and holding sacks of flour and rice blocked 2nd Avenue in New York City, in front of the Israeli consulate. We held signs that said "Food --> Gaza" and posters with images of starving Gazan children.

As we were handcuffed and taken away, a crowd of hundreds of American Jews and Israeli Americans cried out "Let Gaza Live!" At one point, the crowd chanted "That's My Rabbi," and we were so moved by the support, giving us strength to keep being a loud moral voice.

We refuse to accept business as usual while people are starving.

We insist that Israel be held accountable.

We insist that a surge of aid be brought into Gaza, that the hostages be released, and that the war ends NOW

AGAA4 Wed 10-Sept-25 15:24:04

Wyllow3

Time for the ICC to hurry up, AGAA4.

Still holding in the light my Quaker Friend arrested for being a member of Palestine Action.

I've just had my news letter from MSF showing 5 premature babies in Gaza squashed into one incubator.
The doctors worry about infection.

This is so appalling.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:19:47

Maremia

Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.

Yes.

There is always a different message in English than in Hebrew.

The Hebrew message is invariably more extreme.

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:17:14

Time for us to recognise that standing up to Netanyahu and other even more aggressive cabinet members is akin to standing up to Reform and all they stand for

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:11:27

Time for the ICC to hurry up, AGAA4.

Still holding in the light my Quaker Friend arrested for being a member of Palestine Action.

AGAA4 Wed 10-Sept-25 14:03:40

It's heartbreaking to know babies and children are suffering so badly.
Israel as the occupying force have failed miserably to care for the innocents.
Occupying forces have a duty of care towards all civilians and they can't accuse premature babies of being Hamas. It's their usual excuse for slaughter.

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Sept-25 13:57:25

From my copy of news from MSF this morning.

the wording from MSF is

"As premature babies fight for their lives, MSF medical teams in Gaza are forced to work without ultrasound machines, incubators, and even infant formula”

Stop all these excuses and feed and tend to those in need!

Anniebach Wed 10-Sept-25 13:53:12

Quote Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 12:39:53
Much as I hate to contradict you Annieb but may I quote an Israeli who is in power just now, and is carrying out his intention? His name is Smoritch and he is often quoted. His intention is 'Gaza will be destroyed'

Is he ? makes a change from Netanyahu.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 12:40:40

Big difference Annieb between all Gazan and Hamas, don't you think?

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 12:39:53

Much as I hate to contradict you Annieb but may I quote an Israeli who is in power just now, and is carrying out his intention? His name is Smoritch and he is often quoted. His intention is 'Gaza will be destroyed'

Anniebach Wed 10-Sept-25 12:28:00

Quote Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:51:06
Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.

Didn’t Hamas speak of wiping Jews from the planet ?
Add comment | Report | Private message | Quote silverlining48 Wed 10-Sept-25 12:20:51
Hasn’t Israel done the same ? Many times!

No, Israel ha# never said it wants to wipe any race from the planet, yes
it wants to rid the world of Hamas and yes they are Palestinians but big
dfference between - all Jews and a Palestinian terrorist group

silverlining48 Wed 10-Sept-25 12:20:51

Hasn’t Israel done the same ? Many times!

Anniebach Wed 10-Sept-25 12:06:05

Quote Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:51:06
Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.

Didn’t Hamas speak of wiping Jews from the planet ?

foxie48 Wed 10-Sept-25 11:58:50

Will Trump still get his plane from Qatar? I sincerely hope not!

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:55:33

On CNN just now, Qatar, which has already manged to secure some hostage releases ( which should be, but isn't, Netanyahu's prime directive) by facilitating negotiations, has just declared the Israeli aggression as 'state terrorism'.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:51:06

Didn't Smoritch go further, and say they would kill all Palestinians?
Genocide is the intention.