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Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

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posset Mon 04-Aug-25 10:46:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

Much as I dislike Trump I believe he might have enough influence to achieve this.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:49:58

So, those 'vermin terrorists' turned out to be security personnel.

Maremia Wed 10-Sept-25 11:47:32

Yes foxie48, that thought has crossed many, many minds.
Meanwhile in the USA, some Republicans are so concerned about the way Trump is using the military, they are considering a move to restrict his 'Middle East ' powers. Not sure exactly what that means, but if they are succesful, that will not be good news for Netanyahu.

foxie48 Wed 10-Sept-25 08:50:03

Trump is being shown to be supportive of Netanyahu and he keeps promising to put further sanctions on Russia but does nothing. I keep wondering if any of this is linked to his association with Epstein. Epstein is said to have links to Mossad and Trump has made a lot of money out of his links with Russian businesses. Do both countries have something on him? It does make me wonder!

AGAA4 Wed 10-Sept-25 08:30:19

Trump is "very unhappy" about this attack on an ally.
The US are saying that Israel informed the US military who had no authority to stop the attack. They informed the Pentagon and eventually Trump was told.
Qatar was told by the US but the attack was already taking place.
Israel failed in their mission and have more condemnation from other countries.
Qatar have said they will respond.

dogsmother Tue 09-Sept-25 22:20:11

There will be no peace for a long time, a whole lot of countries are going to end up being dragged in between this and Putin our future is looking rather worrying to me.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 20:34:06

Apparently it was innocent security policemen killed.

Israel will pass it off as collateral damage.

6 innocent Israelis were killed at the bus stop.

Is that also collateral damage?

AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 20:04:36

Hamas have said their leaders weren't killed in the Israeli attack but six others were.
If this is true it was an expensive mistake by Israel.
Trump.has told Qatar that this will not happen again. The US response seems confusing.

AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 19:51:23

Israel may feel they have won a war but any humanity they may have had has well and truly been lost. That is a failure.

foxie48 Tue 09-Sept-25 19:39:10

Sadly Israel is proving to be above the law that civilised countries adhere to. This Israeli government is willing to justify killing anyone, under any circumstances.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:54:20

Oh so let’s be grateful we didn’t invite the peace talks weren’t held in London, or anywhere in Europe

AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:51:31

Smotrich has said Israel will destroy Hamas wherever they are in the world. Who will they bomb next? They seem to think they have a right to do whatever they want continually breaking laws.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:41:02

So I guess Netanyahu has successfully destroyed the ceasefire talks.

Onwards and upwards with the genocide.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:36:47

Has this ever happened before? I can’t remember such an incident where allies bombed another ally completely violating its sovereignty.

Parsley3 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:30:26

Qatar has not attacked Israel so how can it be called self defence?

silverlining48 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:28:28

It was reported that the meeting in Qatar was discussing a peace agreement which would not please Israel which would have been aware of this.
For Israel to bomb a foreign country without reason is against international law. Will anything be done about it? We all know the answer to that.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:26:48

Anniebach

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:10:52
Israel has completely violated another countries sovereignty.

“This is not just a strike on Hamas. It is a strike on sovereignty. International law is explicit. No state may attack another without Security Council approval or a case of direct self-defence. Israel had neither. Jets crossed borders, bombs fell, and left in silence”

It is self defence , you will continue to deny it

Tell that to the international court of law and see how far you get.

You would be laughed out of court.

Anniebach Tue 09-Sept-25 18:19:21

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:10:52
Israel has completely violated another countries sovereignty.

“This is not just a strike on Hamas. It is a strike on sovereignty. International law is explicit. No state may attack another without Security Council approval or a case of direct self-defence. Israel had neither. Jets crossed borders, bombs fell, and left in silence”

It is self defence , you will continue to deny it

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 18:10:52

Israel has completely violated another countries sovereignty.

“This is not just a strike on Hamas. It is a strike on sovereignty. International law is explicit. No state may attack another without Security Council approval or a case of direct self-defence. Israel had neither. Jets crossed borders, bombs fell, and left in silence”.

Smileless2012 Tue 09-Sept-25 17:52:25

No one has expressed any sympathy for senior Hamas figures in Doha Oreo or anywhere else.

Oreo Tue 09-Sept-25 17:28:31

So you are on the side of the hamas senior figures in Doha?
They’re terrorists don’t be wasting any sympathy on them.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 17:15:29

Oreo

AGAA4

The US have said they knew about the Israeli attack on Qatar. Law breaking doesn't mean much in the US now.

Are you bothered that senior hamas figures have now been eliminated? The very ones that orchestrated the 7th October massacre in Israel.Hiding out in Doha in expensive apartments with the blessing of the Qatar government!
The IDF are now going for the ‘cut the head off the snake’ policy which is a wise move.

So you are on the side of the lawless

Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 17:14:08

Oreo

It isn’t experienced to say which country is complicit! They should stick to medical matters.

If not organisations like MSF - then who?

Oreo Tue 09-Sept-25 17:06:50

AGAA4

The US have said they knew about the Israeli attack on Qatar. Law breaking doesn't mean much in the US now.

Are you bothered that senior hamas figures have now been eliminated? The very ones that orchestrated the 7th October massacre in Israel.Hiding out in Doha in expensive apartments with the blessing of the Qatar government!
The IDF are now going for the ‘cut the head off the snake’ policy which is a wise move.

AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 16:41:18

The US have said they knew about the Israeli attack on Qatar. Law breaking doesn't mean much in the US now.

Anniebach Tue 09-Sept-25 16:37:15

Countries were not bothered about the Holocaust and Jews, hence we heard Never Again , some hear it now but many choose to ignore now