If you want to understand the techniques Farage uses ...

Is that from scrapping Net Zero amongst other things?

Apparently they are making a good fist of Kent County Council from what I have read, saving a lot of money and running it efficiently. I live in Kent and am so pleased they got in.

Can somebody please explain to me what a Reform government is going to do to make this country a better place. What are their plans for the NHS, education, social care etc etc?

Koalama

Just reading and catching up with this post. Oh dear here we go again anyone else think its hilarious that the leftys think we're gullable because we support/ follow Farage. Seriously listen to yourselfs and think about what you support or follow, if gullable is to be thrown around 'me thinks it stinks of being a tad scared of a new party getting bigger everyday. Lots of gullable people in this country now then eh. But wait I suppose its a typical lefty thing that all brexiters believe we believed in the NHS money bus too, as why else could/would we have ever wanted to leave Europe. So the narrative of gullable is thrown around again hilarious!!

Excellent post, spot on! I do wonder why we are considered gullible fools for supporting someone who only wants the best for this country.

RSALLAN2002

Crisis - broken political system (authoritarian government with huge majority from 27% of electorate); self serving politicians; we're all getting poorer; crime out of control (knife crime, shoplifting, no response to burglaries and vehicle crime, ASB); struggling NHS; unaffordable welfare; uncontrolled immigration; climate change; polluted waterways; inadequate defence and threats from Russia and China. Apart from all that, everything's fine.

For accuracy, the Labour Party won 33.7 percent of the vote in the UK general election of 2024, compared with the Conservatives who won 23.7 percent.

I don’t think anybody is denying that there are a huge range of issues facing the UK, and Western countries more broadly. I can understand disillusionment with politicians and recent governments as we look into the abyss of issues too.

What I can’t understand is why, knowing how immensely complex it all is, rather than accepting the challenge, knowing we face tough times as a country, and as individuals ahead, people instead look to find a saviour, jump on bandwagons, and fall for superficial gloss, without ever questioning the how. I can guarantee Reform is not the solution, because there isn’t one. We are in for very tough times ahead regardless of who the government is.

I'm still waiting to hear about the Act of Parliament which makes flying the Union flag illegal..

Just reading and catching up with this post. Oh dear here we go again anyone else think its hilarious that the leftys think we're gullable because we support/ follow Farage. Seriously listen to yourselfs and think about what you support or follow, if gullable is to be thrown around 'me thinks it stinks of being a tad scared of a new party getting bigger everyday. Lots of gullable people in this country now then eh. But wait I suppose its a typical lefty thing that all brexiters believe we believed in the NHS money bus too, as why else could/would we have ever wanted to leave Europe. So the narrative of gullable is thrown around again hilarious!!

I have never liked Nigel Farage and am wary of extremism of any kind. Trimp is dreadful and the thought of a Trump/Farage alliance terrifies me. However I agree with TiggyW that our present lot at Westminster are a shower. The biggest problem is that politicians are now career politicians, having studied the subject at university and never having a career outside of politics, which means that the vast majority of them have no idea whatsoever of how most of us live outside the Westminster Bubble. In the past, politicians had careers before becoming politicians, which meant that they had much more idea about the world in general. I wish, as I have so often wished, that we could have a true centrist party with the sanest ideas (if that could be remotely possible) from all parties.

Saltyspec

I’m new to Gransnet and interested to see the amount of left wing support shown here at a time when support for our Labour govt and leader are at an all time low. Is it the demographic I wonder, or is it that people don’t want to stick their head above the parapet? Maybe most people aren’t interested in politics?

I’m new to Gransnet and interested to see the amount of left wing support shown here...

Well you don't have to be particularly left-wing to mistrust Farage.

Maybe most people aren’t interested in politics?

That's an interesting observation. It's obvious - on here - that there are those who are very interested. But I've no idea how many GN members really are not - as a total.

I assume that those who aren't interested in politics simply don't post on the relevant threads.

Kandinsky

MayBee70

You’re completely out of touch with how millions of people feel about the migrant situation.
But if it makes you happy ignoring it carry on.

I have constantly said that I think there is a problem. But it isn’t a ‘crisis’ and it isn’t the reason why so many things in this country haven’t been funded properly for years. Also there are posts on here pointing out that many people think that there are far more illegal immigrants here than legal ones which is incorrect and is a lie being spread by Reform and the media.

I don't like him so I won't be watching it. I would rather get on with my crochet.

Crisis - broken political system (authoritarian government with huge majority from 27% of electorate); self serving politicians; we're all getting poorer; crime out of control (knife crime, shoplifting, no response to burglaries and vehicle crime, ASB); struggling NHS; unaffordable welfare; uncontrolled immigration; climate change; polluted waterways; inadequate defence and threats from Russia and China. Apart from all that, everything's fine.

Thankyou for posting. We need to get more people to start questioning at this level.

MayBee70

You’re completely out of touch with how millions of people feel about the migrant situation.
But if it makes you happy ignoring it carry on.

mum2three

I have just sat reading through the posts on here and, honestly, it would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic. The OP is focusing on Nigel Farage instead of addressing the reasons why he and his party are gaining such support.
It's the same attitude that car-owners have to pedestrians, they live in a different world.
I can only suppose that those who have replied all live a comfortable middle-class lifestyle and are completely unaffected by all the young, foreign men walking our streets. They don't have to worry about being robbed when they step out of the bank, daren't send their children to the park alone. Yes, I know that many crimes are committed by our own people, but the truth is that those coming across the channel are taking advantage of our good nature and showing their gratitude by stealing and raping.
It isn't just about immigration. Many of us are unhappy about the death of our heritage and culture. There is something sadly wrong when it has become an offence to display the Union flag.

I think you’re right, and that most on the forum live somewhere rather nice and aren’t hard up, by all the posts I read.Not all, but a lot.
They’re usually the ones saying how wonderful it is that we’re such a multi cultural country 😁

MaizieD

^There is something sadly wrong when it has become an offence to display the Union flag.^

Could you detail, please, which act of Parliament makes it an offence to display the Union flag?

I'd agree that there are times when its display is offensive, but I'm not aware that it's a criminal act.

How can our Union flag ever be offensive, and to who?

From where is Farage going get all the money for his bright ideas. God forbid that man ever gets any chance to run the UK.From what I have read he is thinking about us taking our health insurance .

It’s a s**t hole because no money was spent on it under the previous government. The whole infrastructure is crumbling because of that, not migrants.

Doesn’t matter who’s in charge - this country is now a s**t hole and beyond help. Nothing will be done by any party to stop the boats, absolutely nothing.
We’ll just have to put up with things now.

Agree Teazel2

Absolutely!

What’s laughable imo are people thinking that Reform ( who are using immigration as a way of getting elected) will be on the side of working people. They are financed by people involved in offshore banking etc. I’m also somewhat amused by the way that some of us are labelled as rabid lefties when from what I can see most tend to be left of centre, Labour/ Lib Dem supporters .

My thought exactly, rude too

There is something sadly wrong when it has become an offence to display the Union flag.

Could you detail, please, which act of Parliament makes it an offence to display the Union flag?

I'd agree that there are times when its display is offensive, but I'm not aware that it's a criminal act.

The problem we have in the UK is that we simply have no political party electable; the Tories proved what a shower they were and it hasn't taken Labour long to do the exact same. No other party has the political might to run the country and that is what Nigel Farage can trade on
I have always voted. mindful that people died in order that I, as a woman, could; but were there to be a General Election tomorrow I would be amongst the majority who simply don't bother turning out.