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If you want to understand the techniques Farage uses ...

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PoliticsNerd Wed 06-Aug-25 13:35:54

...you might be interested in this visual "long read".

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPqwiwQ68Lw

It would be great if those who watch it give their view. Obviously those who don't want to watch already have plenty of threads running. Many thanks.

MayBee70 Fri 08-Aug-25 22:46:48

“The UK technology secretary, Peter Kyle, has become embroiled in a row with Nigel Farage after saying the Reform leader was on the side of child abusers such as Jimmy Savile when it came to online safety.

Farage called for an apology from Kyle, saying the comparison was “disgusting”. He claimed it was not unreasonable to call for the repeal of the Online Safety Act that came into force last week.

Kyle doubled down, saying the act forced providers to “detect and remove horrific child sexual abuse material, using hash matching [technology], [which] prevents grooming and stops strange adults messaging kids, keeps children’s profiles and locations hidden, and stops kids seeing porn”.

Reform UK said on Monday it would repeal the act, arguing that measures intended to push social media companies to limit false and potentially harmful content would make the UK “a borderline dystopian state”.
I think people have misinterpreted what Peter Kyle said. He didn’t say Farage would be friends with Saville just that voting against the bill would make Reform on the side of people like Saville.

eazybee Fri 08-Aug-25 22:40:29

I thought I had read that he was suing someone for comparing him to Hitler?
Are you confusing this with the unpleasant remark by Peter Kyle saying that if he were still alive, Farage would be a friend of Jimmy Savile?

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 21:50:58

Casdon

I think you mean that Reform have won seats in a by election Teazel, not a council?

Yes you are right 😉

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 21:37:08

It’s not changed anything Allira, there were two by elections yesterday I believe, that’s why I was talking in the plural, they won a seat on Carmarthenshire CC too. There may have been more, those were the ones I saw reported.

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 21:30:33

MaizieD

Oreo

It was a joke MaizieD 😁

What was a joke, Oreo?

Do you read Teazel's mind?

No I have a sense of humour and the two laughing emojis gave it away rather.

Allira Fri 08-Aug-25 21:20:13

They had control of the Council anyway, this brings their majority to 64 seats.

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 21:14:24

Yes, I meant they haven’t won control of a council, they’ve won seats at by election for councils.

Allira Fri 08-Aug-25 21:11:38

It's County Council by-election.

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 20:42:16

I think you mean that Reform have won seats in a by election Teazel, not a council?

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:29:29

Easington and Shotton.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:28:36

Btw just read reform have won another council election.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:24:51

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣

What on earth would he sue me for?

I thought I had read that he was suing someone for comparing him to Hitler?

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 20:20:15

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣

What on earth would he sue me for?

Wasnt he threatening someone who compared him to Hitler? Thought I read it somewhere.

PoliticsNerd Fri 08-Aug-25 20:18:45

... they didnt have any say whatsoever in what happened politically during the war years

There was always the possibility of stopping his rise to power. And many people did try to fight his rhetoric and later his methods. Many paid with their lives. Would I do it? I would probably keep myself to myself so as not to endanger my family. But while I can I will speak out Teazel12, and that includes speaking out against the blind support of extremists.

PoliticsNerd Fri 08-Aug-25 19:53:32

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

That really isn't the point. Farage is Farage. However, as Maya Angelou said, "when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time". So we should take note when people work from the same playbook. There is a good chance they want the same things.

MaizieD Fri 08-Aug-25 19:31:13

Oreo

It was a joke MaizieD 😁

What was a joke, Oreo?

Do you read Teazel's mind?

MayBee70 Fri 08-Aug-25 19:17:44

Oreo

It was a joke MaizieD 😁

There’s nothing funny about Farage and his cohorts.

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 18:35:59

It was a joke MaizieD 😁

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 18:34:54

MayBee70

“Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes”
…that says it all really…( as if ‘Nige’or ‘Boris’ give a flying flamingo about any of us…)

Says it all?
We all like different people/politicians don’t we, so that’s all it says.

MaizieD Fri 08-Aug-25 18:30:33

Teazel2

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣

What on earth would he sue me for?

Casdon Fri 08-Aug-25 18:29:38

Teazel2

Casdon

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

Farage to Hitler
Nigel to Adolph
Nige to Dolphi?

Why do you call Farage Nige, is he your son?

Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes.

Possibly without realising it, you have bought into the mate myth. I can honestly say I’ve never felt affectionate towards any politician..

MayBee70 Fri 08-Aug-25 18:00:04

“Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes”
…that says it all really…( as if ‘Nige’or ‘Boris’ give a flying flamingo about any of us…)

PoliticsNerd Fri 08-Aug-25 17:58:31

MayBee70

MaizieD

Thanks, Wwmk2 😆

We're quits. You can't do links from you Ipad, I can't do pictures😆

I’ve only just learned how to text people…blush

One of my favourite sayings MayBee is "Celebrate the small wins" smile I'll raise a glass (cup?) to yours.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 17:31:32

Casdon

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

Farage to Hitler
Nigel to Adolph
Nige to Dolphi?

Why do you call Farage Nige, is he your son?

Does he need to be my son? Its an affectionate way of describing him, like I would say BoJo to describe another one of my heroes.

Teazel2 Fri 08-Aug-25 17:30:27

MaizieD

Teazel2

MaizieD

I fail to understand the link you are making here.

The link that PN was making was between the demonisation of Jews by Hitler over the 1930s and the demonisation of immigrants/asylum seekers that Farage is promoting and encouraging.

Are you equating Nige to Hitler?

No. Just saying he is using the same rhetorical technique.

You are obviously not worried he will sue you 🤣🤣