If you want to understand the techniques Farage uses ...

Saltyspec

As a coal miner’s daughter I was shocked when the Labour Government’s first act was to stop the Winter Fuel Allowance for pensioners on about £11k a year, that was certainly not in line with Old Labour principles

It's now been restored. £200 a year is a far cry from the claims some people make about targeting old people - unless you have any other examples.

As a coal miner’s daughter I was shocked when the Labour Government’s first act was to stop the Winter Fuel Allowance for pensioners on about £11k a year, that was certainly not in line with Old Labour principles

It is also a growing disconnect between the political class, and the working class in particular.

Personally I think it’s naive not to acknowledge that there is a growing disconnect between sectors of the electorate and the two main parties.

Nigel Farage will step into this role if the other parties are not seen to be doing well on the topics constantly in MSM.

Reform are doing well in opinion polls which only serves to bolster their credibility to some.

(I am not a Reform supporter or any other party, but I am capable of seeing what’s going on, doesn’t mean I agree with it though)

Teazel2 clearly my head is in the sand.

Perhaps you could help rid me of my ignorance and tell me what exactly ‘the crisis’ is.

Teazel2

MaizieD

Teazel2

I have watched it, what a load of rubbish. Nigel is not creating a feeling of crisis, there is a crisis! He is also a brilliant orator and debater, his maiden speech in the HoC was brilliant. What a load of absolute tosh from an obvious left wing bias.

So who and what has convinced you that there is a crisis?

And, what is this ‘crisis’?

Its only people with their heads in the sand who dont think there is a crisis.

Do you agree that Farage uses careful rhetorical devices to persuade you of that view? Or have you been truly duped by it that you can't see it?

MaizieD

Teazel2

I have watched it, what a load of rubbish. Nigel is not creating a feeling of crisis, there is a crisis! He is also a brilliant orator and debater, his maiden speech in the HoC was brilliant. What a load of absolute tosh from an obvious left wing bias.

So who and what has convinced you that there is a crisis?

And, what is this ‘crisis’?

Its only people with their heads in the sand who dont think there is a crisis.

Excellent video - thanks PoliticsNerd!

As described by StoneofDestiny, Farage’s technique is classic advertising strategy, which works … until we buy the crap being pedalled by the advertisers, discover it doesn’t do what it promised, chuck it in the bin and realise we’ve wasted our money.

Saltyspec

I’m new to Gransnet and interested to see the amount of left wing support shown here at a time when support for our Labour govt and leader are at an all time low. Is it the demographic I wonder, or is it that people don’t want to stick their head above the parapet? Maybe most people aren’t interested in politics?

There is a world of difference between ‘left wing support’ and support for the current Labour government.

It is the opinion of many ‘left wingers’ that the current Labour government is leaning to the ‘right’, embracing private business and placating the wealthy, and is not implementing the sort of policies which one would expect from a labour government.

I watched it.
Farage is a demagogue and the techniques he uses are far better illustrated by Mark Anthony's speech in Julius Caesar.
More attractive too.

Teazel2

I have watched it, what a load of rubbish. Nigel is not creating a feeling of crisis, there is a crisis! He is also a brilliant orator and debater, his maiden speech in the HoC was brilliant. What a load of absolute tosh from an obvious left wing bias.

So who and what has convinced you that there is a crisis?

And, what is this ‘crisis’?

I have watched it, what a load of rubbish. Nigel is not creating a feeling of crisis, there is a crisis! He is also a brilliant orator and debater, his maiden speech in the HoC was brilliant. What a load of absolute tosh from an obvious left wing bias.

I’m new to Gransnet and interested to see the amount of left wing support shown here at a time when support for our Labour govt and leader are at an all time low. Is it the demographic I wonder, or is it that people don’t want to stick their head above the parapet? Maybe most people aren’t interested in politics?

We can all promise to give everyone diamonds as long as we know we wont get in and have to provide what we promised!! Farage is mostly concerned with promoting Farage, and saying anything he wants to , knowing he will get publicity but not be asked to actually do any of the things he says. You can trust him as much as an icecube in the sun. Now you see it , now you dont!
But what do you expect from someone who cosies up to Dictator Donald Duck Trump? I trust Farage as far as I could throw him

Mr Farage has shown very little interest in doing the work on an MP since he was elected to the post. He showed very little interest in doing the work of an MEP when he was elected to the post, indeed very rarely turning up.
I am astonished that anyone thinks he and his party have any interest in doing the work required to run the country.

nanna8

There must be an awful lot of gullible and naive people around then. Could it be that the current people in charge are pretty hopeless and people are looking for someone, anyone, different? Dangerous game , the same one was played in 1930s Germany. Plus many,many other times too. It would be really good if Farage is as capable and far seeing as he reckons to be - but there is a pretty big niggling doubt there. Glad it isn’t my decision.

Have you watched it then?

Calling people gullible is so smug.

Spot on StoneofDestiny Thank you.

There must be an awful lot of gullible and naive people around then. Could it be that the current people in charge are pretty hopeless and people are looking for someone, anyone, different? Dangerous game , the same one was played in 1930s Germany. Plus many,many other times too. It would be really good if Farage is as capable and far seeing as he reckons to be - but there is a pretty big niggling doubt there. Glad it isn’t my decision.

Spot on StoneOf Destiny.👍

Top post, StoneofDestiny 👏

Watched it and not surprised by any of it. Classic advertising technique / tell people they have a problem (smelly settee), show them a solution to the problem (a smelly spray to out smell the smelly settee), show how the product you are selling is the only product that can de smell your settee quickly. Give it a short quirky name and catchy tune - and yay - it’s embedded in the minds of the smelly settee brigade.

Easy sell to gullible people, just like Farages populist politics. People see him waving the Union Flag denouncing migrants and giving it large about ‘Put Britain First’ . His supporters forget he wanted to work with Trump in the USA - that fell through when had a fall out with Musk! They fail to see he is never in his own Constituency - has done nothing for them, yet the gullible think he can run the country. Farage is a chancer who appeals to the politically naive. He stirs the pot by agitating people, identifying scapegoats for them to focus their discontent on and then stands back and watches while the trouble starts. Classic.

He should not have as much TV coverage as he does - the number of mp’s he has does not justify the attention the media give him. I

butterandjam

Farage copies Trump's playbook.

I found it really interesting to see his playbook analysed, butterjam. I do feel if people know how and why he is saying the things he does the more rational their response can be.

MayBee70

More to the point has TiggyW actually watched it?

That's why I asked the question.

I'm not expecting an answer.

Farage copies Trump's playbook.