Rushanara Ali resigns as UK Homelessness Minister and other matters

MaizieD

Galaxy

Because political allegiance doesn't make you a 'good guy'.

But under the current Labour regime expressing 'socialist' principles appears to make an MP a 'bad guy'.

Agree, Starmer was so anxious to prevent any socialists was standing that just being not left wing was enough to get selected.

I'm all in accordance with your major digression, Terribull

I am only thankful that his next successor but one, Johnson, (another contender for 'worst PM) didn't get elevated to the Lords...

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MaizieD

I don't think she's lost the whip at all, Grantanow, has she?.

I doubt if there's any danger of her losing it. All she's done is resign. Labour MPs only lose the whip if they show concern for the poor and disadvantaged.

It does seem to me that she'd be more at home in the tory party than in Labour.

Exactly, Maizie as long as elected MPs and Ministers parrot all the politically correct phrases, nobody cares a toss whether they mean them or live them - that is until they are caught out and then they cannot be shooed out fast enough.

This government from the start with its freebies and now with Ministers resigning because they say one thing and do another, is one of the most hypocritical governments we have ever had, to us a religious phrase, what a load of whited sepulchres, pristine on the outside but rotten in the core.

I thought the Conservatives were bad enough, but this lot maake me want to throw up. Utterly unprincipled and not giving a damn about the electorate.

I think the propensity to be disappointed in the ruling political class knows no bounds, we often look forward to a change of administration but it seems in no time at all they crash and burn and so soon, how come Labour couldn't read the room, or didn't want to over the Lord Ali freebies.

Why do we get lumbered with such awful people, so often, why do they even go into it? a chance to write their memoirs and be elevated to the House of Lords? The decent honest ones so often just get consigned to the back benches it seems, especially if they stick their heads above the parapet.

I'll probably get my knuckles wrapped for a major digression here, but I still can't get over the way Rishi Sunak appointed Cameron as Foreign Secretary after the Greensill sleaze. This is a man, who if Sarah Vine's indiscreet recently published memoirs are to be believed and no I didn't buy her book, extract in The Guardian, but could there be a better illustration of the feckin' arrogance of one of the laziest and worst PMs in recent history. Allegedly he said this whilst chatting to SV's ex, Michael Gove at some dinner party or other. "We all went to Oxford so we're entitled to rule the country" if that wasn't bad enough he went on to say "You get to completely fuck up the country for years with absolutely no consequences. And when we're all done with being MPs, we get to join the House of Lords. What's not to love" and in his case that is exactly what manifested. What a complete a******e

I think that is a slightly different point though, and I agree that that seems currently to be the case.
I think that is different to being surprised if someone is in the labour party who commits fraud, acts immorally, commits crimes, etc. Those things happen across all parties.

Galaxy

Because political allegiance doesn't make you a 'good guy'.

But under the current Labour regime expressing 'socialist' principles appears to make an MP a 'bad guy'.

Because political allegiance doesn't make you a 'good guy'.

I've always thought that Labour would wish to promote themselves as a party of high ideals. I'm agreeing with Maizie therefore, why is this woman in the Labour party? or for that matter, her colleague who owns multiple sub standard flats which he rents out. I can't see either of them embodying the ethos that Labour would wish to promote, surely they demonstrate some of the worst aspects of unethical capitalism. What makes such individuals think they have the moral fibre to assume these positions? I wonder why prospective MPs are not put under greater scrutiny before they stand. I wouldn't attribute the general malaise that hangs around the political class to any one party, they've all got their rotten apples, but it really doesn't help public perception when the party in government have MPs who flout the general spirit of their party particularly when people are feeling so financially squeezed.

I don't think she's lost the whip at all, Grantanow, has she?.

I doubt if there's any danger of her losing it. All she's done is resign. Labour MPs only lose the whip if they show concern for the poor and disadvantaged.

It does seem to me that she'd be more at home in the tory party than in Labour.

Outrageous. Good riddance. She should lose the Whip permanently.

It is not that this minister had a buy to let property it is that she terminated a tenancy, claiming she wanted to sell the house and a month later put it back on the rental market at a much higher rent.

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I see parallels here with Rachel Reeves writing inconsistencies on her cv.
This government is riddled with hypocritical people out for their own gain. Ali had six companies on the go before Labour came into power, so what else was she up to?

I’ve no problem with her being a ‘business woman’; I just struggle to understand what she was doing in the Labour party if her outlook on life is one of profiteering.

She’s the sort of person Starmer should be removing the whip from, not those who vote against policies which disadvantage people.

In the run up to the last election one of Labours selling points was getting rid of sleaze in Government.

Unfortunately when you put your MP’s on a pedestal of righteousness, they will inevitably fall off.

I see parallels here with Rachel Reeves writing inconsistencies on her cv.
This government is riddled with hypocritical people out for their own gain. Ali had six companies on the go before Labour came into power, so what else was she up to?

I can't think what people like this are doing in the Labour party.

Allsorts

What a woman. Hope she never works in politics again .

She only resigned from her Ministerial position .

She remains an MP

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I just think it’s such a shame that so many politicians seem to be so stupid.
If this one couldn’t see what the fall out of her actions would be then she wasn’t fit to stand for Parliament in the first place. Unfortunately I fear that there are many in Government that seem to be clueless.

Rushanara Ali has resigned her position as Minister for the homeless but I do not think she has resigned as as MP.

Extraordinary possibly, but I did head it up and other matters. Yes it's veered off, but I was trying to encapsulate, the general discontent under one umbrella. Maybe a mistake, should have tagged some of the issues under existing ones.

How did we get from the resignation of the government minister for housing to rape?

It's extraordinary that a thread about a government minister resigning (quite rightly as she was bang out of order) has turned into an anti asylum seekers thread.

Sexual predators regardless of their ethnicity are abhorrent, I'm not sure I'd agree that women would find a rape by an asylum seeker any worse than if it were committed by a British man, except we're stuck with our own deviants unfortunately, but why would we allow a foreign rapist to stay?

I'm wondering if, as in Germany, the asylum seekers are advised of how to behave here, insomuch as women/girls may walk around with not much on, particularly in hot weather, but that's not an invitation to try and have sex with them.

The point is that very few people come out with anecdotes about rape when a white man (or woman) is charged.