Ex-Reform MP Rupert Lowe mistakes charity rowers for ‘illegal migrants’

How disappointing for him! Bloody idiot.

I don't understand your point, Wyllow3

If the land is not used for farming then it should not be exempt.
Farmers should be exempt from IHT.

Wyllow3

I still don't understand why its OK suggest not taxing wealthy landowners who dont use their land for food, in fact, take it out of food.

How on earth can we justify them getting a "pass"?

Posters have already justified it by pointing out various factors about the farming life and food for the nation.

So, if not producing food, could you tell us what these wealthy landowners are doing with their land?
Rewilding perhaps? Environmentally friendly projects? Biodiversity? Forestry?

If the land is not farmed then they cannot argue they should be exempt because they are farming. Simple!

If the land is farmed and produces food then profit margins will be as slim as those of other farmers.
If it is still used as farmland, they would probably have tenant farmers on their land anyway.

Anyone who objects to UK farmers protesting about the IHT on top of other rising costs could refuse to buy British food.

I still don't understand why its OK suggest not taxing wealthy landowners who dont use their land for food, in fact, take it out of food.

How on earth can we justify them getting a "pass"?

Farmers reinvest all the time into the land to produce our food, tell me where you imagine your food, good food, will come from when their family, bought up to farm, sell up to pay tax. Perhaps chickens from America for a start. The government has it so wrong.people were fed up with Conservatives so driven to vote for this lot. Reeves a big a distaster, crying in parliament she remains in position? Words fail on her. I would like to know the actual jobs that two posters on here who constantly tell everyone how wonderful Labour is, do. I can hazard a quess.
As for Rupert he made a big gaff, that's it, I can think of worse.

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Claremont

Yes, on of those very very rich farmers who complained about inheritance tax!

I support all farmers in opposing IHT on farms.

In fact I oppose IHT full stop!

What, even taxing the wealthy landowners? Why not them?

Waiting for Mr Lowe to report any groups of nuns he sees as spies next

Casdon

I think you’ll find illegal immigrants have always entered the country by being smuggled on private craft, UK wide Primrose53, whether several, nine or ninety years ago? I don’t believe that can be stopped altogether.

Regardless, there is nothing that excuses posting as Rupert Lowe did, whatever else people throw into the mix.

I was stuck on a camp site in Calais in the 70’s ( it was a bank holiday and we couldn’t cash any money to get home) and there were people there waiting to get across the channel illegally.

Okay, tell me your solution, I’d be interested to hear it?

Casdon

I think you’ll find illegal immigrants have always entered the country by being smuggled on private craft, UK wide Primrose53, whether several, nine or ninety years ago? I don’t believe that can be stopped altogether.

Regardless, there is nothing that excuses posting as Rupert Lowe did, whatever else people throw into the mix.

Rubbish.

I think you’ll find illegal immigrants have always entered the country by being smuggled on private craft, UK wide Primrose53, whether several, nine or ninety years ago? I don’t believe that can be stopped altogether.

Regardless, there is nothing that excuses posting as Rupert Lowe did, whatever else people throw into the mix.

Casdon

Your example is from 2016 Primrose53.

I know that thank you. I did say in my post it has been going on “for several years” for that very reason.

Only the big rubber dinghies make the news because of the sheer numbers they carry but our small inlets and much quieter coastlines attract those stowing away in lorries or camper vans or buses. I know of many reports of small boats acting very suspiciously and locals are sure illegal immigrants in small numbers are sneaking in.

I think it was in 2018 we came back from France in a private boat. We called up customs to tell them where we were and asked for customs clearance as you are required to do by law.
We were on a sizeable boat, a converted trawler.
Nobody came out.

Your example is from 2016 Primrose53.

Grantanow

Primrose53

Grantanow

I can't understand how an ex-Reform MP could have made such an error. Perhaps a visit to the optician is needed.

In Norfolk and in our neighbouring county of Suffolk there have been reports of illegal immigrants arriving on boats up our many small creeks and quays for several years.

We have also had them arriving illegally in cars and lorries in the dead of night, being dropped off in car parks and then running off into the night.

I imagine when it was reported to Rupert Lowe he had to act fast because, like those already mentioned above, they were never found. Yes, it was incorrect information but he has apologised and made a charity donation.

I couldn't find any reports when searching Google of illegal immigration via boats on the Norfolk or Suffolk coasts. I would think such would have been reported in local or national newspapers so I think it's unproven rumour. Rupert Lowe did not refer to such previous incidents when explaining his mistake.

It's unfortunate that his mistake led to a waste of public money in intercepting the charity rowers.

You didn’t search very well then did you?

Here’s just one to be going on with but there are others

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-37337547

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ayse

I think he should have donated more!

He donates his entire MP’s salary every month to charities.

He lives on income from his farm.

That is a lovely thing to do, as opposed to the freebies KS is taking!

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Jaxjacky

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ayse

I think he should have donated more!

He donates his entire MP’s salary every month to charities.

He lives on income from his farm.

He is a multi millionaire and a director of about 30 companies, from pharmaceutical to gold mining in Australia.

I know, which is why he is able to donate his salary to charities.

There are other multi millionaire MP’s do they donate their salary? If they so, good on them 👍

That’s not what this thread is about though. A more relevant question would be are they also irresponsible enough to make posts on social media alerting people to things which turn out to be incorrect, and which could have resulted in people coming to serious harm. One would hope not. Money does not compensate for stupidity, which is what his actions were on this occasion.

Primrose53

Grantanow

I can't understand how an ex-Reform MP could have made such an error. Perhaps a visit to the optician is needed.

In Norfolk and in our neighbouring county of Suffolk there have been reports of illegal immigrants arriving on boats up our many small creeks and quays for several years.

We have also had them arriving illegally in cars and lorries in the dead of night, being dropped off in car parks and then running off into the night.

I imagine when it was reported to Rupert Lowe he had to act fast because, like those already mentioned above, they were never found. Yes, it was incorrect information but he has apologised and made a charity donation.

I couldn't find any reports when searching Google of illegal immigration via boats on the Norfolk or Suffolk coasts. I would think such would have been reported in local or national newspapers so I think it's unproven rumour. Rupert Lowe did not refer to such previous incidents when explaining his mistake.

It's unfortunate that his mistake led to a waste of public money in intercepting the charity rowers.

He used to be Chairman of the football team I support. He's always been a prat.

Claremont

Yes, on of those very very rich farmers who complained about inheritance tax!

I support all farmers in opposing IHT on farms.

In fact I oppose IHT full stop!

Yes, on of those very very rich farmers who complained about inheritance tax!

Jaxjacky

GrannyGravy13

ayse

I think he should have donated more!

He donates his entire MP’s salary every month to charities.

He lives on income from his farm.

He is a multi millionaire and a director of about 30 companies, from pharmaceutical to gold mining in Australia.

I know, which is why he is able to donate his salary to charities.

There are other multi millionaire MP’s do they donate their salary? If they so, good on them 👍

GrannyGravy13

ayse

I think he should have donated more!

He donates his entire MP’s salary every month to charities.

He lives on income from his farm.

He is a multi millionaire and a director of about 30 companies, from pharmaceutical to gold mining in Australia.

ayse

I think he should have donated more!

Why should he?!