Palestine Action Protest

There is the normal pro Palestine protest today and then there will be those joining in the Action Palestine group, so nobody has to support a proscribed group.What they’re hoping is to overwhelm the police, but the police say they’re ready for them.

GrannyGravy13

As has been posted Palestine Action Group are a proscribed terrorist group, their supporters will be treated the same as any other proscribed group.

Are posters advocating breaking the law?

Yes, I believe definitely there are times when conscience demands you break the law

There are many historical examples of this happening in the UK. Some actions at Greenham Common , or at Faslane, were/are illegal and I support them

As long as no one is harmed by that action and the person is not spreading illegal propaganda I think this one of the occasions.

Ie, their action is as benign as the other people taking part.

I'm excluding people of course who have committed acts that have harmed in past actions

Whitewavemark2

As I say I have no firm opinions on the matter except to say that I am by instinct very protective of our democratic right to protest.

I think it no bad thing to be tested in court.

As to breaking the law, that is entirely up to the individual.

Do you feel the same about ISIS, Daesh, Hezbollah?

I think we have to trust our secret services, who know more than us.

Claremont

Posts crossed GG13- I think it is totally fair for many to question why the group has been proscribed as a terrorist group.

Of course, but don’t encourage people to join in as you already have on the first page of the thread.

As I say I have no firm opinions on the matter except to say that I am by instinct very protective of our democratic right to protest.

I think it no bad thing to be tested in court.

As to breaking the law, that is entirely up to the individual.

Posts crossed GG13- I think it is totally fair for many to question why the group has been proscribed as a terrorist group.

Quote GrannyGravy13 Sat 09-Aug-25 08:49:49
As has been posted Palestine Action Group are a proscribed terrorist group, their supporters will be treated the same as any other proscribed group.

Are posters advocating breaking the law?

Yes

They are not the ones who are committing war crimes and a genocide. Do I think that painting a military plane was a good idea, NO. But I can understand the said planes were seen as supporters of the above and as such I understand the action, if if I don't condone it. The ones who did this are a tiny number of the protesters.

But like many, as explained above by Whitewave- I am very concerned that the ban is wrong, and feels like shutting down protest about this unfolding genocide, in a way one would expect from North Korea.

As has been posted Palestine Action Group are a proscribed terrorist group, their supporters will be treated the same as any other proscribed group.

Are posters advocating breaking the law?

StoneofDestiny

You can protest, just don’t hold up a sign saying you support a proscribed group. Easy.

Exactly what I was coming into say StoneofDestiny.

Common sense at work.

I very much doubt that Yvette Cooper took the decision to proscribe them in a ‘cavalier’ manner btw.

No matter what academics or writers may say encouraging people to support this group, they aren’t the ones that will be arrested and charged.
There is going to be an appeal about the proscribement, but until it’s taken place and is reversed, which may not happen anyway, anyone foolish enough to openly support this group will face the consequences.

Not everyone agrees with the government. I’ll just drop this here but just to say that I have no real opinion on the subject except by instinct I am very jealous of our hard earned freedoms, and would always use proscription very very sparingly. It is never sensible to be too cavalier about limiting protest imo.

“Naomi Klein and Angela Davis are among dozens of international scholars and writers who have signed a letter to the Guardian calling on the UK government to reverse the ban on Palestine Action.

The letter applauds what it describes as a “growing campaign of collective defiance” against the ban and commends the hundreds of people who plan to risk arrest by declaring their support for Palestine Action during a mass protest in London on Saturday.

Signatories from major academic institutions around the world also say they are “especially concerned” about the ban’s possible impact on universities across Britain and beyond”

You can protest, just don’t hold up a sign saying you support a proscribed group. Easy.

Reasons for Proscription
The proscription was largely influenced by a high-profile incident where Palestine Action activists vandalized military aircraft at RAF Brize Norton, causing significant damage. This act, along with other similar actions, led to concerns about the group's methods and intentions, prompting the government to classify it as a terrorist organization. The Home Secretary stated that the group's activities posed a threat to national security and public safety, justifying the need for such a measure.

fancythat

Because Oreo said so!

There’s no need for the thread to be deleted but every reason to not encourage anyone to support Palestine Action.

fancythat

petra

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Do you use the Dartford crossing a lot.
If that’s yes, how did you feel about it being shut for one and a half days due to a peaceful protest
If no, you might feel differently about peaceful protest
An estimated 15,000 vehicles use the crossing everyday.

No, dont use it a lot.
Didnt like what happened there.
I wouldnt call that peaceful at all.

By definition it was peaceful. No punches thrown. Nobody got hurt.

There will be no prosecution for protesting peacefully.
Being a member of Palestine Action is an offence under the terrorism act.

www.counterterrorism.police.uk/statement-on-palestine-action/

petra

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Do you use the Dartford crossing a lot.
If that’s yes, how did you feel about it being shut for one and a half days due to a peaceful protest
If no, you might feel differently about peaceful protest
An estimated 15,000 vehicles use the crossing everyday.

No, dont use it a lot.
Didnt like what happened there.
I wouldnt call that peaceful at all.

Because Oreo said so!

fancythat

If GN delete this thread , so be it.

You’ve said that several times in relation to your posts.
Why do you keep thinking this is going to happen 🤷‍♀️

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Do you use the Dartford crossing a lot.
If that’s yes, how did you feel about it being shut for one and a half days due to a peaceful protest
If no, you might feel differently about peaceful protest
An estimated 15,000 vehicles use the crossing everyday.

If GN delete this thread , so be it.

Oreo

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Anything? 😁I think not.

Can you give examples please{not something i ask of anything very often!].
I feel i am missing vital points on this whole issue.

I shouldn’t think that this forum wants posters to openly support on here, a proscribed group.🤔