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Palestine Action Protest

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fancythat Fri 08-Aug-25 18:47:29

Palestine Action demonstrators may never be able to visit the US or work in education if they take part in this weekend's protest, the Met Police have warned.

I certainly do not know everything there is to know about this subject.
And I certainly would not be joining in.

But this all feels very wrong to me.
Big consequences for protesting.

eazybee Fri 08-Aug-25 19:39:27

Palestine Action has been proscribed under Section 3 of the Terrorism Act 2000. This makes it a criminal offence to be a member of this group or to invite or recklessly express support for them. The legislation came into force at 0001hrs on Saturday 5 July 2025.Decision confirmed by Yvette Cooper.
It was put to the vote in Parliament and the vote was carried 385 for, 26 against.

fancythat Fri 08-Aug-25 19:46:41

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

fancythat Fri 08-Aug-25 19:47:27

There probably has been a thread about this subject before on GN.
I would be interested to read through it, if that is indeed the case.

winterwhite Fri 08-Aug-25 20:23:07

‘Action’ tends not to be ‘peaceful’.

Claremont Fri 08-Aug-25 21:18:44

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Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 21:22:04

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Anything? 😁I think not.

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 21:26:27

Yvette Cooper says the group have a long history of violent protests.
Groups are not proscribed for nothing.
There’s nothing stopping anyone peacefully protesting about Gaza it’s gone on for almost two years.
There’ll be well meaning older people ( sometimes known as useful idiots) carrying placards and glueing themselves to the tarmac. Don’t send them to prison, hit them each with a fine of £1,000.

Claremont Fri 08-Aug-25 21:43:40

Vile and condescending comment- quite obviously, despite the non attempt to hide - very personal about some of us here, useful idiots. Why should anyone be hit with a fine for holding a placard telling the truth.

Claremont Fri 08-Aug-25 21:44:51

I'd be proud to be one of them- much better than being.... (best not said). Thinking about Pauline Quirk here.

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 21:49:06

Claremont

Vile and condescending comment- quite obviously, despite the non attempt to hide - very personal about some of us here, useful idiots. Why should anyone be hit with a fine for holding a placard telling the truth.

Because the group are proscribed, obvious innit? A group who do violent things and ruin military planes.
By all means protest but don’t hold up placards supporting them.

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 21:50:55

I shouldn’t think that this forum wants posters to openly support on here, a proscribed group.🤔

fancythat Fri 08-Aug-25 21:59:13

Oreo

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Anything? 😁I think not.

Can you give examples please{not something i ask of anything very often!].
I feel i am missing vital points on this whole issue.

fancythat Fri 08-Aug-25 22:00:46

If GN delete this thread , so be it.

petra Fri 08-Aug-25 22:13:39

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Do you use the Dartford crossing a lot.
If that’s yes, how did you feel about it being shut for one and a half days due to a peaceful protest
If no, you might feel differently about peaceful protest
An estimated 15,000 vehicles use the crossing everyday.

petra Fri 08-Aug-25 22:16:18

fancythat

If GN delete this thread , so be it.

You’ve said that several times in relation to your posts.
Why do you keep thinking this is going to happen 🤷‍♀️

fancythat Fri 08-Aug-25 22:21:10

Because Oreo said so!

fancythat Fri 08-Aug-25 22:22:17

petra

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Do you use the Dartford crossing a lot.
If that’s yes, how did you feel about it being shut for one and a half days due to a peaceful protest
If no, you might feel differently about peaceful protest
An estimated 15,000 vehicles use the crossing everyday.

No, dont use it a lot.
Didnt like what happened there.
I wouldnt call that peaceful at all.

petra Fri 08-Aug-25 22:24:45

There will be no prosecution for protesting peacefully.
Being a member of Palestine Action is an offence under the terrorism act.

www.counterterrorism.police.uk/statement-on-palestine-action/

petra Fri 08-Aug-25 22:27:40

fancythat

petra

fancythat

Thank you for that.

Must be just me.
I think peaceful protests whould be allowed in the Uk about anything. I think.

Do you use the Dartford crossing a lot.
If that’s yes, how did you feel about it being shut for one and a half days due to a peaceful protest
If no, you might feel differently about peaceful protest
An estimated 15,000 vehicles use the crossing everyday.

No, dont use it a lot.
Didnt like what happened there.
I wouldnt call that peaceful at all.

By definition it was peaceful. No punches thrown. Nobody got hurt.

Oreo Fri 08-Aug-25 22:28:24

fancythat

Because Oreo said so!

There’s no need for the thread to be deleted but every reason to not encourage anyone to support Palestine Action.

eazybee Fri 08-Aug-25 22:28:27

Reasons for Proscription
The proscription was largely influenced by a high-profile incident where Palestine Action activists vandalized military aircraft at RAF Brize Norton, causing significant damage. This act, along with other similar actions, led to concerns about the group's methods and intentions, prompting the government to classify it as a terrorist organization. The Home Secretary stated that the group's activities posed a threat to national security and public safety, justifying the need for such a measure.

StoneofDestiny Fri 08-Aug-25 23:30:31

You can protest, just don’t hold up a sign saying you support a proscribed group. Easy.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 09-Aug-25 05:46:01

Not everyone agrees with the government. I’ll just drop this here but just to say that I have no real opinion on the subject except by instinct I am very jealous of our hard earned freedoms, and would always use proscription very very sparingly. It is never sensible to be too cavalier about limiting protest imo.

“Naomi Klein and Angela Davis are among dozens of international scholars and writers who have signed a letter to the Guardian calling on the UK government to reverse the ban on Palestine Action.

The letter applauds what it describes as a “growing campaign of collective defiance” against the ban and commends the hundreds of people who plan to risk arrest by declaring their support for Palestine Action during a mass protest in London on Saturday.

Signatories from major academic institutions around the world also say they are “especially concerned” about the ban’s possible impact on universities across Britain and beyond”

Oreo Sat 09-Aug-25 08:43:07

No matter what academics or writers may say encouraging people to support this group, they aren’t the ones that will be arrested and charged.
There is going to be an appeal about the proscribement, but until it’s taken place and is reversed, which may not happen anyway, anyone foolish enough to openly support this group will face the consequences.