‘Palestine Action’ marchers - arrests today.

Yes I absolutely feel exactly the same.

Foreign powers should have no say in our domestic law.

That lobbyists have caused this proscription makes me extremely uncomfortable but the court case hopefully will reveal if Palestine Action have been wrongly proscribed.

Quote AGAA4 Thu 14-Aug-25 15:55:56
That lobbyists have caused this proscription makes me extremely uncomfortable but the court case hopefully will reveal if Palestine Action have been wrongly proscribed.

What money is being made? One can donate, and Amazon are
selling tee shirts supporting the group, not Palestine, seems Amazon has now said they will be withdrawn

Think there’s a court case on the 22 August.

If posters and others are happy for our defence systems to be put in peril by criminal groups and object to such criminal groups being proscribed as terrorists, that is very worrying indeed.
Where would that lead to?

Sabotage which damages the country's security systems can be considered as terrorism.

Allira

If posters and others are happy for our defence systems to be put in peril by criminal groups and object to such criminal groups being proscribed as terrorists, that is very worrying indeed.
Where would that lead to?

Sabotage which damages the country's security systems can be considered as terrorism.

I don’t think that you can have read the posts properly.

Anniebach

Quote AGAA4 Thu 14-Aug-25 15:55:56
That lobbyists have caused this proscription makes me extremely uncomfortable but the court case hopefully will reveal if Palestine Action have been wrongly proscribed.

What money is being made? One can donate, and Amazon are
selling tee shirts supporting the group, not Palestine, seems Amazon has now said they will be withdrawn

I hope that Palestine Action are pleased with themselves.
They've succeeded in taking the focus away from Gaza and turned it on to themselves.

Meanwhile the people in Gaza continue to suffer.

Happy now, founders of Palestine Action?

Whitewavemark2

Allira

If posters and others are happy for our defence systems to be put in peril by criminal groups and object to such criminal groups being proscribed as terrorists, that is very worrying indeed.
Where would that lead to?

Sabotage which damages the country's security systems can be considered as terrorism.

I don’t think that you can have read the posts properly.

I have read Hansard.

Posts are just opinions. Nothing more.

Allira

Whitewavemark2

Allira

If posters and others are happy for our defence systems to be put in peril by criminal groups and object to such criminal groups being proscribed as terrorists, that is very worrying indeed.
Where would that lead to?

Sabotage which damages the country's security systems can be considered as terrorism.

I don’t think that you can have read the posts properly.

I have read Hansard.

Posts are just opinions. Nothing more.

But that won’t tell you what you need to know until the court judgement is read out in parliament.

And you began

if posters

I have read Hansard too and it is quite damning but there is a court case soon so I will reserve my own judgement till more facts come to light.

Whitewavemark2

Allira

Whitewavemark2

Allira

If posters and others are happy for our defence systems to be put in peril by criminal groups and object to such criminal groups being proscribed as terrorists, that is very worrying indeed.
Where would that lead to?

Sabotage which damages the country's security systems can be considered as terrorism.

I don’t think that you can have read the posts properly.

I have read Hansard.

Posts are just opinions. Nothing more.

But that won’t tell you what you need to know until the court judgement is read out in parliament.

And you began

*if posters*

And?

I don’t think that you can have read the posts properly.

Facts, if not the full quota, will be revealed during the court case starting on the 22nd of August? Okay, thanks.
And, I take it you can find Hansard online.
If Palestine Action has committed terrorist offences then the proscription is fair. If not, then who pushed for it to happen?
To know that, is also important for our security.

Allira

Whitewavemark2

Allira

Whitewavemark2

Allira

If posters and others are happy for our defence systems to be put in peril by criminal groups and object to such criminal groups being proscribed as terrorists, that is very worrying indeed.
Where would that lead to?

Sabotage which damages the country's security systems can be considered as terrorism.

I don’t think that you can have read the posts properly.

I have read Hansard.

Posts are just opinions. Nothing more.

But that won’t tell you what you need to know until the court judgement is read out in parliament.

And you began

*if posters*

And?

I don’t think that you can have read the posts properly.

So good to chat with you😄😊😄

Mock away!

It matters not a jot.
The facts are there.

Reading posts for facts !

Oreo

The truth is that PA have a history of violence and they have attacked and hurt police and security staff.

I well remember how many police officers were attacked by miners in the 80s. No one seemed to feel the need to make the NUM a proscribed organisation.

that's an interesting point theworriedwell.

theworriedwell

Oreo

The truth is that PA have a history of violence and they have attacked and hurt police and security staff.

I well remember how many police officers were attacked by miners in the 80s. No one seemed to feel the need to make the NUM a proscribed organisation.

A completely different scenario and different times.We have had so much extremism in the UK that any group who’s intent is to target businesses and military installations in a violent way to achieve its ends needs severe punishment.
The miners were fighting for their jobs and at times the police used brutal methods with them.I honestly don’t think that would happen today.

Quote Oreo Thu 14-Aug-25 18:29:09
theworriedwell
Oreo
The truth is that PA have a history of violence and they have attacked and hurt police and security staff.
I well remember how many police officers were attacked by miners in the 80s. No one seemed to feel the need to make the NUM a proscribed organisation.
A completely different scenario and different times.We have had so much extremism in the UK that any group who’s intent is to target businesses and military installations in a violent way to achieve its ends needs severe punishment.
The miners were fighting for their jobs and at times the police used brutal methods with them.I honestly don’t think that would happen today.

What nonsense comparing the miners strike, I suggest asking anyone who was really involved , quite simply-

Rock Bottom And Still Drilling

theworriedwell

Oreo

The truth is that PA have a history of violence and they have attacked and hurt police and security staff.

I well remember how many police officers were attacked by miners in the 80s. No one seemed to feel the need to make the NUM a proscribed organisation.

Well, that was not the reason for this, was it. 🤔

A non-sequitur

Smileless2012

that's an interesting point theworriedwell.

No, it's not because the proscription of PA was not because they had attacked police officers, was it.

Putting our Armed Forces and defence systems at risk is.

Oreo

theworriedwell

Oreo

The truth is that PA have a history of violence and they have attacked and hurt police and security staff.

I well remember how many police officers were attacked by miners in the 80s. No one seemed to feel the need to make the NUM a proscribed organisation.

A completely different scenario and different times.We have had so much extremism in the UK that any group who’s intent is to target businesses and military installations in a violent way to achieve its ends needs severe punishment.
The miners were fighting for their jobs and at times the police used brutal methods with them.I honestly don’t think that would happen today.

My father’s funeral in 2006 was attended by many police colleagues. They, like dad served in ww2 then joined the police in about 1948, rising to senior ranks.

They were talking about how much policing changed. We are north west, with many former mining communities. Their consensus would it will take a generation or two to re-establish relationships between the police and public. The cause of the. Breakdown in trust, police tactics during the miner’s strike. They were disgusted by the actions of Met police waving their pay slips at the striking miners. As for Orgreave, horrified

I am annoyed, shocked, disgusted that anyone could compare
the miners strike with a protest group,
I was very involved with the strike, I will not share any of the distressing times on GransNet for it to be used and mocked .
I really find it so low for anyone to use those times .

My DH was at the miners strike. He and most of his colleagues were on the side of the miners but had to uphold the law. Miners wives brought them food and drinks. The Met police arrived and it went quickly so much worse.
Miners strike nothing to do with this issue with Palestine Action.

But it was quoted that PA were violent and attacked the police , well so did the miners. The police didn't choose to be there, didn't choose to be sleeping in disused holiday camps on makeshift beds nor did they choose to be away from their families. I remember I e if our officers having to go as his child was admitted to hospital for surgery and another who was told he had to go when his wife was in premature labour with no one to take his two year old. They got paid for it well why wouldn't they?