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Corbyn’s new political party [Title edited by GNHQ at OP's request]

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 09-Aug-25 20:06:39

Today he said (and I quote)

“the efficacy of this kind of politics stems from unlocking the potential progressive valence of the ‘national’ dimension of the capital-nation-state triad.”

Eh? Come again?
Us working class ‘oop North’ won’t be understanding a word of what tha’s saying lad.

Anyone else in the dark? Or is it just me who doesn’t follow his gobbledegook? 😂

Casdon Fri 15-Aug-25 21:39:09

Iam64

I agreed with you Cumbrianmale, until your final sentence
It wouldn’t be a kindness to let him back into the LP, he loves his victim status
Also, this LP,member doesn’t want him back

I think he wouldn’t return if it was offered anyway, the loose cannon status suits him better than being a back bench Labour MP.

MayBee70 Fri 15-Aug-25 22:38:06

It was pointed out on TRIP that although Labour didn’t get elected under Corbyn they did have a large share of the vote even though the media was totally against him.And that, at the next election the media will not be against Corbyn because they will be wanting him to split the Labour vote ( and possibly the LibDems too) because that will help their preferred party to get in.

Anniebach Fri 15-Aug-25 22:52:05

Corbyn had the worse election defeat since 1935

MayBee70 Fri 15-Aug-25 22:58:38

Anniebach

Corbyn had the worse election defeat since 1935

I know. But they said he still had a higher share of the vote than the current political parties had last time and that he’s still very popular with a lot of people. At least, I think that’s what they meant. I never liked him as leader but I still got annoyed with how the media portrayed him. I even got quite angry in a garage one day when a newspaper given a very prominent display had an unfair headline about Corbyn ( had to apologise to the poor cashier and explain that I wasn’t angry with her). Much as I disliked him I still think he was unfairly treated and imo did far better in the debate with Johnson than the media gave him credit for.

nightowl Sat 16-Aug-25 00:00:25

I think the LP has treated him shabbily and he’s better off out of it. He’s been a loyal member for longer than most of the current MPs have been alive. I still don’t understand why anyone who dislikes him cares what he does next. Views seem to range from ‘he’s going to split the labour vote’ - well the LP should have thought of that before they threw him out, to ‘he’s no threat to the LP because he’s universally disliked’ - in which case, why even bother wasting any brain space on his actions.

Cumbrianmale56 Sat 16-Aug-25 13:30:07

Casdon

Iam64

I agreed with you Cumbrianmale, until your final sentence
It wouldn’t be a kindness to let him back into the LP, he loves his victim status
Also, this LP,member doesn’t want him back

I think he wouldn’t return if it was offered anyway, the loose cannon status suits him better than being a back bench Labour MP.

Hard to tell, as Blair and Brown seemed to tolerate him as an eccentric on thr fringes, but Corbyn did allow some very extreme people back in the Labour Party and made it unelectable.

Casdon Sat 16-Aug-25 14:45:51

I don’t think it’s hard to tell Cumbrianmale56, because when Blair and Brown were in power, Corbyn had no status. He’s now an ex leader of the party whose way of working polarised his position in the party. He has plenty of axes to grind with the current direction the party is taking, but in the knowledge that his way failed. It’s gone past the point of no return.

Iam64 Sat 16-Aug-25 19:08:05

Remember how frequently Corbyn voted against the leader of the party he represented, was it 400?
He doesnt represent the majority of Labour Party members. He’s an idealist, he will never win an election because his ideals don’t reflect the majority LP members, much less the general population.

Anniebach Sat 16-Aug-25 20:02:10

I became a member of the Labour Party 1960, left the party 2016 ,-

The same year Charkrabarti joined as a member and Corbyn appointed her to chair the enquiry into Antisemitism , she declared
that Labour was "not overrun by anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, or other forms of racism," but that there was an "occasionally toxic atmosphere".[36]

She joined April 2016, delivered her findings June 2016,
August 2016 -
Jeremy Corbyn announced her as the only Labour appointment to the House of Lords in August 2016. This was a necessary step to her subsequent appointment as Shadow Attorney General. However, some (including Labour MPs Tom Watson and Wes Streeting) saw this as creating the potential for bias in what should have been an independent inquiry.[37] When asked about the appointment, a spokesman for Corbyn said that Chakrabarti was "an ideal appointment to the Lords".

I joined the party again 2020

MayBee70 Sat 16-Aug-25 22:37:45

I've never forgotten watching Hilary Benn give an amazing speech in parliament one day [I'm afraid I can't remember what it was about; possibly defence?]and Corbyn, who was party leader by then, sat there giving him the most evil looks

Allira Sat 16-Aug-25 22:43:03

nightowl

I think the LP has treated him shabbily and he’s better off out of it. He’s been a loyal member for longer than most of the current MPs have been alive. I still don’t understand why anyone who dislikes him cares what he does next. Views seem to range from ‘he’s going to split the labour vote’ - well the LP should have thought of that before they threw him out, to ‘he’s no threat to the LP because he’s universally disliked’ - in which case, why even bother wasting any brain space on his actions.

He's a maverick.

Eccentric? Probably.
Idealistic? Possibly.
Insecure? As evidenced by Maybee's post about Hilary Benn

A leader? No.
A disruptor? Yes.

Galaxy Sun 17-Aug-25 08:17:31

He was always very poor at hiding his irritation, it is evident in many interviews with him, especially those conducted by women.

Iam64 Sun 17-Aug-25 13:05:20

Galaxy 👍🏻

Oreo Sun 17-Aug-25 16:52:17

This new Party doesn’t seem to have taken off yet? Is it a nine day wonder?

Iam64 Sun 17-Aug-25 19:02:29

These new parties formed around mp’s from existing long established parties don’t have track records of staying the course do they
Grumpy Corbyn may be a good constituencyMP but he isn’t a leader