Setting a precedent?

Iam64

As something around 70% are granted asylum, calling them asylum seekers seems more appropriate than illegal migrants

Even if they aren't granted asylum, they're still seeking it until it's denied.

eazybee

I take issue with the repeated insistence that these migrants are called asylum seekers.
They are illegal migrants until they are able to prove indisputably that they are genuinely seeking asylum, so the first thing they need is documentation to prove which country they have left. If they have none, then they are returned. I am sure all the civil servants who are 'being let go' will be more than happy to work at processing their applications.

Why do you take issue - they're seeking asylum! What's your problem? There might be matter of a minutes from the time they step off a boat to reporting to a Border Officer.

Skydancer

Primrose53

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

Agree. Send them to a country where there is a shortage of labour.

The accepting country still has the right to refuse.

sundowngirl

MaizieD

People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.

Indeed, Doodledog, whereas this is possibly more likely to be the reality.

Whistleblower reveals horrifying reality of Blackpool asylum hotel – from collapsing ceilings to raw sewage

national.thelead.uk/p/metropole-hotel-asylum-seekers-blackpool-whistleblower-pictures-inside?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

The Copthorne Hotel in West Sussex is a luxury hotel with four poster beds etc. and apparently the illegal immigrants staying there get 3 meals a day and a 'snack' pack delivered to their room every day as well as spending money.

Yeah! Yeah! I expect they get their own personal servant too!

I get everything being said about those who are already here, but once the place is FULL, as it is now, any overflow of people simply cannot be accommodated. Why is that so difficult to say?

sundowngirl illegal immigrants get nothing!

Just must correct this!

As something around 70% are granted asylum, calling them asylum seekers seems more appropriate than illegal migrants

MaizieD

^People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.^

Indeed, Doodledog, whereas this is possibly more likely to be the reality.

Whistleblower reveals horrifying reality of Blackpool asylum hotel – from collapsing ceilings to raw sewage

national.thelead.uk/p/metropole-hotel-asylum-seekers-blackpool-whistleblower-pictures-inside?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

The Copthorne Hotel in West Sussex is a luxury hotel with four poster beds etc. and apparently the illegal immigrants staying there get 3 meals a day and a 'snack' pack delivered to their room every day as well as spending money.

escaped

Not only is it a win for Epping, but Broxbourne Council (just along the road), is going to follow. I believe they use the Marriott hotel in Cheshunt.

What I want to know, is what will happen when we run out of spaces? Will Keir Starmer ask King Charles at one of the weekly meetings if Buckingham Palace can be used?

There are spare rooms at Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle
Sandringham, Osborne House, Kensington Palace, Balmoral,
Highgrove House etc.

I am joking as I realise that there are many, quite valid, reasons why this would not be possible.

I don't see any problems with the asylum seekers in our small town.
Yes, they are here, in a hotel, but they don't seem to impact our lives (or our crime stats).
What would be a problem would be people aggressively protesting about it.

growstuff

Primrose53

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

If you know of any island like Nauru off the UK coast, please let Yvette Cooper know.

People can only be deported if the accepting country will have them. Where would you deport them to, if the country of origin isn't known?

Obviously that is why they are encouraged by the people traffickers to destroy any documentation they have as it hinders their asylum applications and indeed their deportations if unsuccessful.

Primrose53

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

Agree. Send them to a country where there is a shortage of labour.

I take issue with the repeated insistence that these migrants are called asylum seekers.
They are illegal migrants until they are able to prove indisputably that they are genuinely seeking asylum, so the first thing they need is documentation to prove which country they have left. If they have none, then they are returned. I am sure all the civil servants who are 'being let go' will be more than happy to work at processing their applications.

lixy

Several military bases near here are being decommissioned. The accommodation will be used as temporary housing. Not a great solution but better than a ship in the Solent.

Wethersfield has been in use for some time and the locals have reluctantly accepted it. I think they've realised that the alternative was to be a new prison, which would have been multi-storey with security lights installed 24/7 on the roof. As far as I know, the prison will be built at some stage, but I think people are now hoping that will be delayed as long as it remains an asylum centre.

lixy

Several military bases near here are being decommissioned. The accommodation will be used as temporary housing. Not a great solution but better than a ship in the Solent.

I disagree. A ship in the Solent ( or anywhere else) would be perfect. The attraction to the UK needs to be as unappealing as ever. Plus, it takes the problem away from residents having their neighbourhood turned into possible no go areas.

People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.

Indeed, Doodledog, whereas this is possibly more likely to be the reality.

Whistleblower reveals horrifying reality of Blackpool asylum hotel – from collapsing ceilings to raw sewage

national.thelead.uk/p/metropole-hotel-asylum-seekers-blackpool-whistleblower-pictures-inside?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share

Doodledog

I wonder if it would help if what were hotels (ie places run for the convenience and luxury of paying customers) were renamed when they are repurposed to simply house asylum seekers? They are no longer hotels, any more than an old bank or cinema that is now a Wetherspoons is still what it used to be.

People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.

That is probably what will happen. The injunction was granted on planning grounds and planning laws can be changed.

The one group of people for whom I have no sympathy are the owners of these hotels. Apparently, the hotel in Epping was run-down and hardly ever had many guests. The owner must have been rubbing his hands with glee when he was offered the contract to take asylum seekers. It most certainly was not a luxury hotel.

Several military bases near here are being decommissioned. The accommodation will be used as temporary housing. Not a great solution but better than a ship in the Solent.

Primrose53

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

If you know of any island like Nauru off the UK coast, please let Yvette Cooper know.

People can only be deported if the accepting country will have them. Where would you deport them to, if the country of origin isn't known?

I wonder if it would help if what were hotels (ie places run for the convenience and luxury of paying customers) were renamed when they are repurposed to simply house asylum seekers? They are no longer hotels, any more than an old bank or cinema that is now a Wetherspoons is still what it used to be.

People talk about 'luxury' hotels, as though asylum seekers get champagne delivered by room service and people are given free slippers.

Deportation is the only answer.
32,000 immigrants residing in hotels which cost us a fortune and which local people, in the main, do not want.

I notice that Nigel Farage has called for more 'peaceful' protests around hotels used for asylum seekers. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!) This would be very frightening for those inside, not all of whom will be strong young men. It is a very great shame that intimidating tactics have won.

LovesBach

growstuff

swampy1961 It was the previous government's policy to start housing asylum seekers in hotels. There are now fewer asylum seekers in hotels than there were a year ago and the policy is that there will be none by 2029.

There are increasing numbers of people arriving in boats - where are they being accommodated when they are removed from hotels?

They live mainly in so-called dispersal units, which could be flats, shared houses or former military accommodation. Stays in hotels are only supposed to be temporary until dispersal accommodation can be found. The Home Office has stated the number of hotels used has decreased from 395 in March 2023 to 220 in November 2024.

The number of people arriving has increased, but so has the number whose claims are being processed. In June 2024 there were 224,742 asylum seekers awaiting an initial decision, but by March 2025 there were 109,536. Deportations have increased.

growstuff

swampy1961 It was the previous government's policy to start housing asylum seekers in hotels. There are now fewer asylum seekers in hotels than there were a year ago and the policy is that there will be none by 2029.

There are increasing numbers of people arriving in boats - where are they being accommodated when they are removed from hotels?

swampy1961 It was the previous government's policy to start housing asylum seekers in hotels. There are now fewer asylum seekers in hotels than there were a year ago and the policy is that there will be none by 2029.