Man made famine - the world should be ashamed

REKA I'm well aware of the situation faced by Jews in many Arab countries following the creation of Israel and the Nakba which led to thousands of Palestinians being forced out of their homeland. Both were wrong IMO but neither justifies the current treatment of Palestinians in Gaza, or the West Bank for that matter. The behaviour of Hamas doesn't justify the deliberate starving of Palestinians either. I have yet to see anyone on this thread support the actions of Hamas, I certainly don't, and I totally condemn the actions of the Netanyahu government which have gone far beyond legitimate self defence.

I think those who defend the actions of the Israeli government have deeply entrenched prejudices that prevent them from seeing the suffering of a people they see as ‘less than’ themselves and of course Israelis.
Is ironically much the same as antisemitism.

Is anybody aware of Jews being forcibly expelled from Arab countries post WWII?

Until the 1960s, approximately one million Jews lived in Iran and other Arab countries having arrived in the region more than 2,000 years before. Nowadays, it is estimated that only around 15,000 remain, as the majority of the Jewish population in Muslim lands were forced to flee their homes in the years following the establishment of the State of Israel. This mass expulsion and exodus is part of modern history, but inexplicably, it’s neither taught at schools nor remembered

History is ignored. So many slavishly believe everything that Hamas says. Nobody believes anything Israel says.

Have any of your read Hamas' charter?

Probably not

"In response to the report, UN aid chief Tom Fletcher said the famine was entirely preventable, saying food could not get through to the Palestinian territory "because of systematic obstruction by Israel".

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres said: "Just when it seems there are no words left to describe the living hell in Gaza, a new one has been added: 'famine'."

He described it as "not a mystery," but rather "a man-made disaster, a moral indictment, and a failure of humanity itself".

Above taken from the BBC website, I listened to Tom Fletcher he sounded very distressed. Decent people, doing difficult jobs and I am much more inclined to believe them than those who speak on behalf of Netanyahu's government who say there is no famine in Gaza! I don't know how anyone can defend the actions of this Israeli Government, it is beyond my understanding. There is food waiting to feed starving people yet Netanyahu and his government is willing to let people starve and people with full bellies make excuses for them. It beggars belief!

Have also signed petitions and written an email to my MP, who replied to say he had been inundated by similar emails and would raise the need for the government to take action when next in parliament.

Thanks Wyllow3, have displayed the starvation poster when you last posted it on here. My grown family have done the same and passed on the link to their friends

Anniebach

Quote Dee1012 Fri 22-Aug-25 15:37:53
The events of Oct' 07th were horrendous - there can be no disputing that.

However...if you treat people in the way Israel has since 1948 i.e massacres, expulsions - even using biological weapons how can anyone dispute that what is happening is ethnic cleansing / genocide.

I can't understand why the world is allowing this to happen...

Genocide since 1948 ?

Perhaps I worded it badly?

In my opinion, what can only be described as ethnic cleansing began in 48', it's now progressed to genocide.

Whitewavemark2

We sit by watching as children starve to death, their mothers’ cannot feed them and their fathers’ unable to provide them with food.

Every single calorie is controlled by one government.

Why are we allowing this situation to continue?

What do you suggest the world does? How does the outside world change this situation? I'm as appalled by this as the next person but don't see that loads of people expressing outrage on internet threads achieves anything. Do we want our government (or others) to send troops to Israel or Gaza? If not that way, then what do we do to stop it?

To Wyllow how do you think writing to the people you list will help? Does David Beckham have the ear of either Hamas or Netanyahu?

David Lammy
[email protected]

Kemi Badenoch
[email protected]

James Cleverly
[email protected]

Sayeeda Warsi (conservative friends of Palestine)
[email protected]

David Beckham
[email protected]

Leah Williamson (Englands women footie captain)
[email protected]

Phil Rosenberg (UK Jewish Board of Deputies president)
email: [email protected].

Tilda Swinton
[email protected]

Many other prominent actors and actresses and comedians.

Your local MP

so many morel look them up, print here, write to them

ronib

There’s going to be a lot to shout about too if the rumours about changes to inheritance tax are true. Taxation on selling a house…. But even if we shout from the rooftops, what difference does it make?

To starving children affected by war, none whatsoever. We’re well into a dead cat strategy here.

If Hamas surrendered and gave up the hostages then it would save thousands of lives. Don't forget, this was started by them as a terrorist attack. All descent people should condemn terrorism. I know. I have seen five people killed a few feet from me in a terrorist attack - all inocent.

There’s going to be a lot to shout about too if the rumours about changes to inheritance tax are true. Taxation on selling a house…. But even if we shout from the rooftops, what difference does it make?

We can only make a difference by ‘shouting’ as to what goes on in our own country.The government here can’t change a thing in any other country/ war/ conflict.

Isnt that rather defeatist?

Think of the many changes in history only made because people shouted from their rooftops. women didnt get the vote without masses taking part. winning hearts and minds is always part of those changes. Add the email address of your MP to your poster ..put the posters up (chose which one carefully) at last.

some of these posters go straight to the heart, and if anyone is able to go on a demo then they are good posters. You can send the poster reference to people you know do have influence. I've done my best, the strength of feeling is such

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-bme15d-9718-89-red-line-poster-thumbnails2-width-1000.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-geo5kl-9718-89-red-line-poster-thumbnails3-width-1000.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-8bewk6-starvation-weapon-poster-preview-width-1000.jpg

Another attempt to show the best posters

Wyllow3

What can you do? Print out these posters. Out them in your window. share them with people you know for their windows
Put them on your FB or X or equivalent E mail links!

Only if it makes you feel better, as it won’t change a thing.

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-4d3h9n-9718-89-red-line-poster-thumbnails-1-width-1000.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-6rp7o7-9718-89-red-line-poster-thumbnails4-width-1000.jpg

More Oxfam posters

A lot of Israelis want the hostages back at any price and others don’t want their own AC reservists to be in danger, it’s understandable.It isn’t every Israeli citizen protesting tho, not by any means.Most know that what has to be done is for their own future safety.

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-7el97n-starvation-weapon-poster-preview-width-1000.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-fpiafz-9718-89-red-line-poster-thumbnails2-width-1000.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202508/medium-edt7ok-peace-poster-preview-width-1000.jpg

What can you do? Print out these posters. Out them in your window. share them with people you know for their windows
Put them on your FB or X or equivalent E mail links!

Babs03

ronib

Thanks Babs03 but why on earth would Hamas only agree to return 10 hostages? How crazy is Hamas? Such disrespect for human life.

The only way to hold off the bombing and try to extend a ceasefire by releasing hostages in smaller numbers but at regular intervals. If Hamas releases them all Israel will start bombing again immediately.

Have never read as much nonsense on this subject Babs03
Hamas only care about themselves.If they hand over all the hostages, alive and dead then the war would end as there would be no need to do more.Naturally they would have to disarm and blend back into their families which they could easily do.
Some will have already done that, fearful for their own lives, others have already been killed and the rest have dug in hoping to kill a few Israeli soldiers and hoping their propaganda works by other countries putting pressure on Israel.
Getting hostages out alive was never going to be easy.Hamas murdered a lot, probably fairly soon after they were taken especially any children.I was impressed that Israel managed to secure as many hostages back as they have.

Babs03

A growing number of Israelis have been protesting on the streets of Israel because they believe the government don’t care about the lives of the hostages.
And there are increasing numbers calling for an end to the suffering in Gaza.
Seems there are people on this forum who feel they know better than they do.

And everyone, watch them, and hear from Israelis right here

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABWprU184U

and they are across Israel, roads are being shut down by protesters against the current regimes' policies.

Good for them!

Mass protests have gripped Israel, as demonstrators blocked a highway between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem and rallied across the country to demand an end to the Gaza war and the immediate release of hostages

source: ABC news

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has lashed out at protesters, accusing them of strengthening Hamas, while Israeli President Isaac Herzog labelled opponents of the Israeli government’s military operations in Gaza as ‘hypocrites’.

IDF chief Eyal Zamir visited Israeli forces to inspect progress in preparation to take over Gaza City, as Israel announced it would give tents to hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who would be displaced during the expected attack on the city."

A growing number of Israelis have been protesting on the streets of Israel because they believe the government don’t care about the lives of the hostages.
And there are increasing numbers calling for an end to the suffering in Gaza.
Seems there are people on this forum who feel they know better than they do.

It's easy to keep the conscience clear by blaming Hamas for everything that's happened while believing that Netanyahu is on his killing spree for the good of Israel.
If he cared about the hostages they would have been back home by now.
There was a deal to release them a while ago and Netanyahu's answer was to bomb Gaza even more.

ronib

Thanks Babs03 but why on earth would Hamas only agree to return 10 hostages? How crazy is Hamas? Such disrespect for human life.

Israel is destroying a nation. The intergenerational trauma of those poor souls who make it out alive will never, ever end.

ronib

Thanks Babs03 but why on earth would Hamas only agree to return 10 hostages? How crazy is Hamas? Such disrespect for human life.

The only way to hold off the bombing and try to extend a ceasefire by releasing hostages in smaller numbers but at regular intervals. If Hamas releases them all Israel will start bombing again immediately.