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Man made famine - the world should be ashamed

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 22-Aug-25 12:44:59

We sit by watching as children starve to death, their mothers’ cannot feed them and their fathers’ unable to provide them with food.

Every single calorie is controlled by one government.

Why are we allowing this situation to continue?

Smileless2012 Thu 28-Aug-25 13:41:39

No I'm not blind to the hate of some of the Palestinians and Hamas ronib, just as I'm not blind to the hate of Netanyahu, his government and some of his people towards the Palestinians not just in Gaza, but also on the West Bank.

I don't need a lesson on 'The Final Solution' Annie and I'm pretty sure that no one else does either. As far as what's happening in Gaza today is concerned it is irrelevant.

Anniebach Thu 28-Aug-25 13:32:38

Hamas has vowed to kill all Jews -

The Final Solution[a] or the Final Solution to the Jewish Question[b] was a plan orchestrated by Nazi Germany during World War II for the genocide of individuals they defined as Jews. The "Final Solution to the Jewish question" was the official code name for the murder of all Jews within reach, which was not restricted to the European continent

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 13:29:14

You seem to be blind to the hate and antipathy of the Palestinians/Hamas?Smileless2012

Smileless2012 Thu 28-Aug-25 13:21:15

I'm not denying Israels complete antipathy and hatred ronib.

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 13:03:53

What is your latest headcount for Gaza? Smileless2012. To deny the complete antipathy and hatred present at the moment is to delay any progress and saving of lives.

Smileless2012 Thu 28-Aug-25 12:54:30

No it isn't about learning with your worst enemy ronib there wont be any of Israels enemies left in Gaza; there wont be anyone left be they friend or foe.

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 11:13:39

It’s about learning to live with your worst enemy.

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 11:11:58

It’s not about justifying this degree of retribution.

foxie48 Thu 28-Aug-25 10:55:35

Sadly regardless of how much we abhor the treatment and deaths on 7/10, killing, maiming and starving Palestinians won't bring a single one back to life. It is, however, endangering more Israeli lives and creating inhumane conditions for over two million Palestinians. I think anyone who can justify this degree of retribution will be able to justify just about anything!

Anniebach Thu 28-Aug-25 10:42:20

Quote ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 10:26:14
I feel physically sick whenever I see a photo of the Bibis family.

There is a photograph of the mother clutching her baby as the murderers approached her , and the photographs of the two little ones Kfir and Ariel being loved by their parents .

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 10:26:14

I feel physically sick whenever I see a photo of the Bibis family.

Anniebach Thu 28-Aug-25 10:24:20

Quote ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 10:15:22
It’s even worse than that Anniebach - the coffin didn’t contain the body of Mrs Bibis and it took many months for her body to be returned to her husband.

Yes ronib , how could anyone forget that day, the family taken hostage wasn’t enough for the Palestinians, they verbally abused them when releasing their corpses,

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-Aug-25 10:23:20

Still according to the White House the war in Gaza is expected to be over by the end of the year, and on the first day Trump is moving in to develop the strip with all his razzmatazz and tacky nonsense.

Meanwhile what happens to the inconvenience of 2 million people who are in the way?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-Aug-25 10:20:18

ronib

It’s even worse than that Anniebach - the coffin didn’t contain the body of Mrs Bibis and it took many months for her body to be returned to her husband.

So much misery and suffering.

The roads in Gaza apparently smell from rotting bodies trapped under the rubble and no one has the wherewithal to get them out and give them a decent burial.

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 10:15:22

It’s even worse than that Anniebach - the coffin didn’t contain the body of Mrs Bibis and it took many months for her body to be returned to her husband.

Anniebach Thu 28-Aug-25 09:56:38

The darling bibas children, not content with
The Bibas little ones, not content with murdering them , the Palestinians
mocked and cheered their coffins

LizzieDrip Thu 28-Aug-25 09:51:51

ronib

For all we know, Mr Bibis has.

He may have ronib, but his government are clearly ignoring him, and many thousands of other Israeli voices.

How can this be supported?

Anniebach Thu 28-Aug-25 09:50:48

Quote AGAA4 Thu 28-Aug-25 09:38:49
ronib
What do you say to the Bibis family? Or the ones who are left? AGAA4
I would ask them to beseech their government to stop this war as many Israelis are doing.
I would ask them to ensure better security for their people than was available in October 2023.
I respect the Israeli people as I would any other civilised nation. They can't be blamed for the actions of their extreme right government.

Back to the days when a woman asked to be raped because she wore a mini dress, blame the victim

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 09:46:23

For all we know, Mr Bibis has.

AGAA4 Thu 28-Aug-25 09:38:49

ronib

What do you say to the Bibis family? Or the ones who are left? AGAA4

I would ask them to beseech their government to stop this war as many Israelis are doing.
I would ask them to ensure better security for their people than was available in October 2023.
I respect the Israeli people as I would any other civilised nation. They can't be blamed for the actions of their extreme right government.

LizzieDrip Thu 28-Aug-25 09:33:39

ronib

What do you say to the Bibis family? Or the ones who are left? AGAA4

I would say what thousands of Israelis, including families of hostages, are saying.

Their voices deserve to be heard.

news.sky.com/story/israeli-protesters-demand-netanyahu-does-whatever-it-takes-to-bring-hostages-home-but-is-he-listening-13418951

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 09:25:29

What do you say to the Bibis family? Or the ones who are left? AGAA4

AGAA4 Thu 28-Aug-25 09:23:23

The shooting of children is routine for the IDF. This is the sort of action you expect from terrorists not a supposedly well trained army.
As some of the key figures in the Israeli government have been convicted of violence then this is why there is so much brutality.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-Aug-25 09:04:57

Children under 15 years old made up almost a third of outpatients treated for wounds in field hospitals run by Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) in Gaza last year, statistics published in The Lancet reveal.

The figures were released by MSF in correspondence with the respected medical journal and come from six health facilities in Gaza supported by the international medical NGO. The facilities are predominantly in the south and centre of the devastated territory.

More than 90,000 outpatient consultations involving wounds were carried out at the facilities in 2024. Bombs, shelling or shooting was involved in just under half of these, MSF said.

ronib Thu 28-Aug-25 08:37:53

Just been informed that the Palestinian Bedouins are looting large numbers of aid trucks and that prior to this war, Hamas had kept the Bedouins in check.

So I guess Israel is still to blame for not fighting the Bedouins? Along with Hamas, Iran, Houthis, and etc….