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Man made famine - the world should be ashamed

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 22-Aug-25 12:44:59

We sit by watching as children starve to death, their mothers’ cannot feed them and their fathers’ unable to provide them with food.

Every single calorie is controlled by one government.

Why are we allowing this situation to continue?

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 09:11:31

Don’t forget to read Israel’s review of the IPC… in the interests of fairness and objectivity.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Aug-25 09:07:42

Unfortunately the IPC has blocked the ability to copy and paste bits of the report.

I do urge people to read it though. It gives a complete picture of what is happening in Gaza.

I will though, bung some figures together to give an idea of exactly what is happening.

Anniebach Wed 27-Aug-25 09:05:20

Watching BBC News, people being treated in hospital, certainly not injured or staff are starved

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 09:04:52

This applies to you as well. LizzieDrip

LizzieDrip Wed 27-Aug-25 09:03:33

ronib

I don’t believe swathes of the Australian media! Every now and again, once in a blue moon even, some reporter might inch closer to the truth…. Not happening here in the UK. foxie48

You mean closer to what you believe. That is not necessarily the truth.

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:55:20

I don’t believe swathes of the Australian media! Every now and again, once in a blue moon even, some reporter might inch closer to the truth…. Not happening here in the UK. foxie48

Anniebach Wed 27-Aug-25 08:53:38

Quote ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:49:53
Oh silly me I forgot - as a terrorist group it may not be bound by the Geneva Convention. That’s okay then?

Yes it’s ok, and places them above criticism

foxie48 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:52:40

Hamas is a terrorist organisation, Israel is a country which signed up to the Geneva convention in 1951, although, of course, many former prime ministers and politicians have been members of terrorist organisations and have been implicated or charged with murder. It's of current interest that both Smotrich and Ben-Givr have been implicated in terrorist offences.
"Who are Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, the Israeli ministers sanctioned by Australia?
One was convicted of supporting a group on terrorism blacklists and is in charge of the police force. The other reportedly described himself as a "fascist homophobe". Both ministers have now been sanctioned by the Australian government." SBS news Austrailia, for Ronib who obviously prefers to believe the Australian media.

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:52:13

How can anyone get through to you Wwm2? Anarchy is prevailing with Hamas dictating terms.
Did you ever study objectivity at university?

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:49:53

Oh silly me I forgot - as a terrorist group it may not be bound by the Geneva Convention. That’s okay then?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:47:54

ronib

Hamas seems to have ignored the Geneva Convention?

So your answer is

Yes The Geneva Convention is simply an inconvenience best ignored.

Let anarchy prevail.

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:40:55

Typo has not seems

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:40:01

Hamas seems to have ignored the Geneva Convention?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:38:13

ronib

No it’s not retribution.
Hamas has declared war on Israel. There’s no way Israel can accept Hamas in Gaza. The war won’t stop until Hamas is defeated. All actions have consequences unfortunately.

I ask again

Have you read the Geneva Convention?

Or do you see it merely as an inconvenience to be ignored?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:35:19

I have decided to paraphrase.

What happens to the body as it starves?

During periods of inadequate food, the body will consume its own tissue. The longer a food deficit continues, the more depleted the body becomes, using not just reserves of energy and muscle, but also tissue and organs that are critical to life.

The risk of death from causes that otherwise would not be fatal increases with the severity of malnutrition. Increasing nutrition-related mortality and reports from surgeons on the inability of trauma patients to heal from blast injuries and bullet wounds indicates that physical reserves are depleted.

Short periods of barely adequate food, cannot compensate for long periods of inadequate food. There needs to be a sustained period of more than adequate food supply in order to allow the population to gradually build up reserves which will take months of at least 25% more than is necessary.

Israel is gradually starving Gaza to death.

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:33:42

No it’s not retribution.
Hamas has declared war on Israel. There’s no way Israel can accept Hamas in Gaza. The war won’t stop until Hamas is defeated. All actions have consequences unfortunately.

Babs03 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:24:43

AGAA4

Almost 63,000 Palestinians in retribution. They have been bombed, shot and starved.
Only around 8000 of those have been Hamas. Fair? I don't think so.

And it’s not over yet, far from it.

AGAA4 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:19:51

Almost 63,000 Palestinians in retribution. They have been bombed, shot and starved.
Only around 8000 of those have been Hamas. Fair? I don't think so.

Aveline Wed 27-Aug-25 08:16:30

Hardly an eye for an eye! Massive literal overkill by Israelis.

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:15:24

Short memories here on GNET.

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:14:33

Can I remind you how all this started? How many civilians did Hamas kill in October 2023? Wwm2
Please keep God out of this.

AGAA4 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:14:01

Killing 20 people in case there are one or two Hamas hiding there is not acceptable and is another war crime.
Israel have used this ploy many times. Killing so many innocents because they thought there was one Hamas person there.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:10:56

ronib

And it’s your opinion too - how can you know that? AGAA4. How do you know Nasser hospital hasn’t been taken over by Hamas?

It does bloody matter!

Israel are killing civilians for god’s sake.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Aug-25 08:10:11

I have been reading the IPC report, which makes shocking reading, it is available to everyone should you be interested, but I will cope extracts for those not wanting to read a very long, detailed and sobering report.

ronib Wed 27-Aug-25 08:07:34

And it’s your opinion too - how can you know that? AGAA4. How do you know Nasser hospital hasn’t been taken over by Hamas?