Angela Rayner - 3 homes now

It’s personal interpretation as to whether somebody is sneering I think, because we all have different styles, and we rub some people up the wrong way because they perceive what we say is sneering at them when we think what we are doing is just putting our point of view over. There’s no right or wrong on what people choose to do as long as it’s within the law regarding second homes, just different opinions.

Casdon

MaizieD

The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre

Can you give us some examples of these 'sneering posts' Allira, because I don't recall any. But, 'senior memory' is perhaps kicking in...

There have been heated discussions about the fairness of councils/governments charging higher council tax for people with second homes, I’m guessing that’s what Allira is referring to?

But who was 'sneering'?

Primrose53

Casdon

Allira

OldFrill

Someone with a second home complaining because someone else has a second home. Who is the hypocrite.

Is that deliberately ironic?

The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre so it is amazing that, now a Labour politician has a holiday home, it is something to be applauded and defended.

Therein lies the irony!

😁

There is an irony in a post being made about Angela Rayner having a holiday home when the post is made by somebody who has a second home they have themselves used as a holiday home though, that cannot be denied.

Would you rather I had not been honest and pretended I didn’t have a second home? I have never used my second house as a holiday home. I have, for a couple of years, rented it out for holiday lets. That was because of covid when landlords were told we could not get rid of bad tenants.

I repeat what I said earlier, I am not the Housing Minister.

Honesty is always good, and I don’t mind at all Primrose53, why would I, we all make our choices, it’s just undeniably ironic.

The question is not how many houses any Labour MP occupies. It is the simple fact that Labour has done a lot of virtue signalling and stomping around and shouting about the iniquities of second homes especially in holiday areas How all these second home owners are distorting the local housing market, making it more difficult for first time buyers by driving.

Now we see a prominent government minister buying a holiday home in a seaside constituency. She also has a house in her constituency and a grace & favour flat in London. A distribution of home/work houses that applies to many families not just politicians.

It is the second home by the seaside that sticks in my craw.

A few thoughts:
If I wanted a second home I would want one I could use for many years. Maybe even one to retire to?

We all know there's no security as a politician. And anyway, I wouldn't buy a second home too near my job (unless it was an area I truly loved) given that most jobs are not for life anymore.

Lots of people like a home by the sea. I think it's somewhere she can work from and holiday at.

30 mins to just about an hour is exactly the right distance between home and work I found. I always had quite stressful jobs and that gave me time to think, decompress, and reset.
I once worked only 10 mins from home by car and found it nicer to walk if I could as that took long enough to have blown a lot of rubbish away.

Casdon

Allira

OldFrill

Someone with a second home complaining because someone else has a second home. Who is the hypocrite.

Is that deliberately ironic?

The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre so it is amazing that, now a Labour politician has a holiday home, it is something to be applauded and defended.

Therein lies the irony!

😁

There is an irony in a post being made about Angela Rayner having a holiday home when the post is made by somebody who has a second home they have themselves used as a holiday home though, that cannot be denied.

Would you rather I had not been honest and pretended I didn’t have a second home? I have never used my second house as a holiday home. I have, for a couple of years, rented it out for holiday lets. That was because of covid when landlords were told we could not get rid of bad tenants.

I repeat what I said earlier, I am not the Housing Minister.

She will pay 100% council tax if it is used as a second home, just like everyone else who has a second home in Brighton and Hove. She'll also pay capital gains tax if she sells it and if she dies, her estate will almost certainly pay some inheritance tax too. If at some point she decides to let it, she'll pay tax on the income. Just like anyone else unless.

Allsorts

How can anyone own three homes unless mega rich. Most struggle to own one. She is out of touch.

She doesn’t OWN three homes - one is a grace and favour apartment as she’s Deputy PM. Not sure that I agree with people having two houses, but it’s good to get facts right…….

How many of our politicians of whatever party actually set a good example? I can’t think of any. Labour MP’s could sell all their property and give to the poor. As it is they want to take from the rich. All too often however it turns out to be taken from the middle class many of whom have risen from working class roots. It looks like housing is to be the next target. With private schools the rich just coughed up more money whilst middle class parents had to take their kids out of the private sector or cut back on holidays etc.

MaizieD

^The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre^

Can you give us some examples of these 'sneering posts' Allira, because I don't recall any. But, 'senior memory' is perhaps kicking in...

Oh, as I'm going out now, I'll leave you to trawl through the Search facility on GN, Maizie. I'm sure it's very efficient!
But yes, there have been several from time to time

I’m envious!

I thought we had a housing crisis? Empty properties? Must have imagined it….

MaizieD

^The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre^

Can you give us some examples of these 'sneering posts' Allira, because I don't recall any. But, 'senior memory' is perhaps kicking in...

There have been heated discussions about the fairness of councils/governments charging higher council tax for people with second homes, I’m guessing that’s what Allira is referring to?

Grantanow

Her defence is she needs the Hove flat for its proximity to her job in London. Surely a flat in Tower Hamlets would have been more convenient.

I would have thought you couldn't get much nearer to Westminster than Admiralty House - 1 mile.

Allira - I don't believe I've seen anyone applauding A second home on here to be honest.

But I do think she's allowed to have a seaside apartment as much as anyone else!

Grantanow

Her defence is she needs the Hove flat for its proximity to her job in London. Surely a flat in Tower Hamlets would have been more convenient.

I would have thought that her grace-and-favour ministerial apartment in Admiralty House, Westminster is close enough for her to do the London part of her job?

The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre

Can you give us some examples of these 'sneering posts' Allira, because I don't recall any. But, 'senior memory' is perhaps kicking in...

Allira

OldFrill

Someone with a second home complaining because someone else has a second home. Who is the hypocrite.

Is that deliberately ironic?

The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre so it is amazing that, now a Labour politician has a holiday home, it is something to be applauded and defended.

Therein lies the irony!

😁

There is an irony in a post being made about Angela Rayner having a holiday home when the post is made by somebody who has a second home they have themselves used as a holiday home though, that cannot be denied.

Ooh, I like Hove, spent many happy holidays there as a child when my Aunt lived there in a flat, which came with her job but was her only home.

Her defence is she needs the Hove flat for its proximity to her job in London. Surely a flat in Tower Hamlets would have been more convenient.

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70 the thread title is correct.

Ms Rayner has three homes, two she owns along with one grace and favour apartment due to her job.

2 + 1 =3

So, if you rent your home or it comes with the job, it's not really your home then, apparently.

It's just somewhere to lay your head.
Not a Place to Call Home.

OldFrill

Someone with a second home complaining because someone else has a second home. Who is the hypocrite.

Is that deliberately ironic?

The number of sneering posts on GN about people who have second homes are not usually from those to the right of centre so it is amazing that, now a Labour politician has a holiday home, it is something to be applauded and defended.

Therein lies the irony!

😁

However if everyone is going to be allowed two homes as a minimum perhaps it should be 3 million as the target?

Since you ask foxie48 - did you mean to ask Oreo ? - one glaring example is in AR’s 1,500,000 houses to be built by the next election. But over to Oreo!

MayBee70 the thread title is correct.

Ms Rayner has three homes, two she owns along with one grace and favour apartment due to her job.

2 + 1 =3