“Migrants are more important than residents" A statement that the Labour party will live to regret?

Being defensive and attacking does not hide truths.

Kandinsky

The Sooner Nigel Farage takes control of this country the better.
He’s our only hope.

I assume you have read the Reform manifesto?

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Who said people aren't concerned?

You are at least the 3rd poster on GN to seem to argue things one way, yet are actually concerned it seems.

I dont get that way of doing things.
Do you argue against yourself?

Maybe you have difficulty understanding that some things aren't always black or white.

The why not give "balanced" posts, reflecting or saying what you and others are actually| thinking?

Eh? That really doesn't make sense.

Other posters[and I would include myself] give what I would call a balanced post on something.

If say we didnt like 3 things about something, but liked 1 aspect we would say so.

But with a few posters, and I would include you in that maybe[dont know for sure as not studied your posts], would say the 3 things, and many different ways of saying the 3 things, but rarely if ever, mention the other side of the coin as well, that you are actually thinking.

It's quite evident that you haven't studied my posts. It's laughable that you call yourself balanced and attack unspecified others for not being balanced.

CariadAgain

NB; It's the Black Belt Barrister on YouTube that was giving his legal views re this....

Yawn!

I've listened to some of the stuff he comes out with. You really need to listen to something a little less biased.

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Who said people aren't concerned?

You are at least the 3rd poster on GN to seem to argue things one way, yet are actually concerned it seems.

I dont get that way of doing things.
Do you argue against yourself?

Maybe you have difficulty understanding that some things aren't always black or white.

The why not give "balanced" posts, reflecting or saying what you and others are actually| thinking?

Eh? That really doesn't make sense.

Other posters[and I would include myself] give what I would call a balanced post on something.

If say we didnt like 3 things about something, but liked 1 aspect we would say so.

But with a few posters, and I would include you in that maybe[dont know for sure as not studied your posts], would say the 3 things, and many different ways of saying the 3 things, but rarely if ever, mention the other side of the coin as well, that you are actually thinking.

CariadAgain

My own reaction to that statement was "What the heck?". Obviously us voters come first and illegals do not get a say.

I don't live in that area - thankfully - but I'd certainly be feeling sick as a parrot if they'd turned round and told me I didn't matter when I'm British and it would be my home area and then followed that with people with no rights to an opinion about it (ie the illegals) did.

As someone living the other side of the country and, thankfully, none of this stuff going on near me to my knowledge = I'm sitting there thinking "Starmer has just signed his resignation as Prime Minister has he?" For a so-called intelligent man - he really doesnt get it does he?

I think he's going to come to regret this - and darn soon - and I'm certainly expecting a weekend of mayhem after that....

That barrister guy on his YouTube channel doesn't think he'll get away with that either...

Nobody has said that voters don't matter.

No human being is "illegal".

The residents of Epping are themselves divided.

You obviously haven't read what the appeal judges actually said or understood the legal position.

Starmer had no role in the decision.

There will be a full hearing about the case in October. This was always only an interim injunction, but it's not surprising it's been weaponised.

Rather than reading snippets of headlines, try delving a bit deeper.

NB; It's the Black Belt Barrister on YouTube that was giving his legal views re this....

Doodledog

I think we can prove that the Mail said that the judgement prioritised the rights of asylum over the rights of residents.

The day that anyone believes that a Mail headline (or a headline in any newspaper) is proof that this is actually the case is very worrying. It is a biased interpretation of what happened, not a quote from anyone the government.

Chris Philp and Kemi Badenoch said it too. The Telegraph reported their words - not what was said in court.

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Who said people aren't concerned?

You are at least the 3rd poster on GN to seem to argue things one way, yet are actually concerned it seems.

I dont get that way of doing things.
Do you argue against yourself?

Maybe you have difficulty understanding that some things aren't always black or white.

The why not give "balanced" posts, reflecting or saying what you and others are actually| thinking?

Eh? That really doesn't make sense.

My own reaction to that statement was "What the heck?". Obviously us voters come first and illegals do not get a say.

I don't live in that area - thankfully - but I'd certainly be feeling sick as a parrot if they'd turned round and told me I didn't matter when I'm British and it would be my home area and then followed that with people with no rights to an opinion about it (ie the illegals) did.

As someone living the other side of the country and, thankfully, none of this stuff going on near me to my knowledge = I'm sitting there thinking "Starmer has just signed his resignation as Prime Minister has he?" For a so-called intelligent man - he really doesnt get it does he?

I think he's going to come to regret this - and darn soon - and I'm certainly expecting a weekend of mayhem after that....

That barrister guy on his YouTube channel doesn't think he'll get away with that either...

‘The fact that’, not ‘the day that’ 🙄

I think we can prove that the Mail said that the judgement prioritised the rights of asylum over the rights of residents.

The day that anyone believes that a Mail headline (or a headline in any newspaper) is proof that this is actually the case is very worrying. It is a biased interpretation of what happened, not a quote from anyone the government.

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fancythat

Who said people aren't concerned?

You are at least the 3rd poster on GN to seem to argue things one way, yet are actually concerned it seems.

I dont get that way of doing things.
Do you argue against yourself?

Maybe you have difficulty understanding that some things aren't always black or white.

The why not give "balanced" posts, reflecting or saying what you and others are actually| thinking?

Allsorts

All this arguing about who started it, its where we are that matters.
I expected no less from Starmer, he is a lawyer, residents don't matter. If the words were recorded in court accurately how can you argue.

Was Starmer in court?

Allsorts

All this arguing about who started it, its where we are that matters.
I expected no less from Starmer, he is a lawyer, residents don't matter. If the words were recorded in court accurately how can you argue.

They weren't stated in court. I thought that was clear by now. This is how the truth is distorted.

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'In court they said the right of illegal migrants to free hotels is more important than the rights of the British people.

Said lawyers used by the Government.

Alledgedly.

Proof please!

It's not what is being reported - only what a handful of people are claiming.

The DM quoted those exact words.

But that is not going to be "proof" is it?!

No, it isn't. Nobody in court said the actual words. Third parties, including the Daily Mail, have used the words to interpret the appeal judgment.

fancythat

^Who said people aren't concerned?^

You are at least the 3rd poster on GN to seem to argue things one way, yet are actually concerned it seems.

I dont get that way of doing things.
Do you argue against yourself?

Maybe you have difficulty understanding that some things aren't always black or white.

Kandinsky

The Sooner Nigel Farage takes control of this country the better.
He’s our only hope.

In your opinion!

There are many who dread the thought.

The Sooner Nigel Farage takes control of this country the better.
He’s our only hope.

Who said people aren't concerned?

You are at least the 3rd poster on GN to seem to argue things one way, yet are actually concerned it seems.

I dont get that way of doing things.
Do you argue against yourself?

growstuff

fancythat

'In court they said the right of illegal migrants to free hotels is more important than the rights of the British people.

Said lawyers used by the Government.

Alledgedly.

Proof please!

It's not what is being reported - only what a handful of people are claiming.

The DM quoted those exact words.

But that is not going to be "proof" is it?!

All this arguing about who started it, its where we are that matters.
I expected no less from Starmer, he is a lawyer, residents don't matter. If the words were recorded in court accurately how can you argue.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

They actually said it.
“Keir Starmer's Labour government thinks the rights of illegal immigrants are more important than the rights of local people”.

Who are ‘they’? Can you give a proper link please?

eazybee

Well, if you are not concerned about thousands of unidentified illegal migrants flooding into this country then you should be.
The most serious aspect is, Who is going to pay for it?

Don't think once these people are processed, (speedily so even less is known about them), and able to earn they will boost the economy.
Their small wages will be split between paying off the gang masters who brought them here and will employ them, and keeping their family in their home countries.

Who said people aren't concerned?

The trouble is that some people seem to think there are easy solutions.

fancythat

^'In court they said the right of illegal migrants to free hotels is more important than the rights of the British people.^

Said lawyers used by the Government.

Alledgedly.

Proof please!

It's not what is being reported - only what a handful of people are claiming.