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“Migrants are more important than residents" A statement that the Labour party will live to regret?

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 29-Aug-25 16:59:32

I think so.
It was their appeal statement in Court. To overturn the previous decision about housing migrants in that hotel in Epping it was their salvo.

Well I think it’s just put a nail in their coffin.

What do you think?

PoliticsNerd Sun 31-Aug-25 16:39:05

Sparklefizz

JaneJudge

I still cannot ignore that they are human beings. What have we come to?

We can't save the whole world, can we????

Other people, currently elsewhere, may well think that includes us if economies crash, wars take place and climate change makes land uninhabitable.

Why not get the world into talks now rather than finding yet another group people believe can't include them, blaming them and treating them as less than human?

Primrose53 Sun 31-Aug-25 15:47:00

growstuff

Immigration officers have some level of security clearance and shouldn't be sharing personal information about the people they deal with. It's a sackable offence.

You said that a year ago. I told you then he is not sharing “personal” information.

StripeyGran Sun 31-Aug-25 15:46:01

Laughable.

Primrose53 Sun 31-Aug-25 15:42:31

StripeyGran

The situation with displaced people ( let's be honest those of colour) is spiraling badly out of control.

I wonder what the motivation is to rile people up and cause further dischord? I don't get it.

It’s nothing to do with colour! Syrians and Chinese for example are white as are some Afghans and people from other countries.

CarS Sun 31-Aug-25 15:23:48

One terrorist/criminal amongst even 400 people is too many. We wouldn't leave our front doors open to anyone. Illegals are illegals. Why is this country so naive? I understand that people living in remote parts of the UK may have been fooled all this time but I think they are finally waking up to what is happening. I fear it's too late. We need CONTROLLED immigration.

escaped Sun 31-Aug-25 15:04:06

growstuff

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growstuff

escaped

When you write of "Epping residents" don't lump them all together.
Strange the Assistant Chiel Constable of Essex lumps the feelings of Epping residents altogether yet I am admonished for doing so! 😂

Do you mean Stuart Hooper?

No, he doesn't lump them all together. He acknowledges the polarisation of opinion in a number of interviews.

No. I've no idea about about Stuart Hooper.
It's not the name Epping residents I know used in this context. Google is your friend.

I'm 100% retired.

Why on earth do I need to know that?

There are two Assistant Chief Constables in Essex. ACC Glen Pavelin has been vocal on the situation over the past week or so. He said, The strength of feeling in Epping throughout the summer is not lost on me. My continued plea to those people who want their voices to be heard is to please do that safely and peacefully.

LizzieDrip Sun 31-Aug-25 14:58:41

fancythat

Your government words are fooling very few.

What on earth are you on about?

What’s wrong with you?

StripeyGran Sun 31-Aug-25 14:34:49

The situation with displaced people ( let's be honest those of colour) is spiraling badly out of control.

I wonder what the motivation is to rile people up and cause further dischord? I don't get it.

Sparklefizz Sun 31-Aug-25 14:12:23

JaneJudge

I still cannot ignore that they are human beings. What have we come to?

We can't save the whole world, can we????

Oreo Sun 31-Aug-25 14:06:52

JaneJudge

I still cannot ignore that they are human beings. What have we come to?

That argument doesn’t hold up.Hamas are human beings for example.
They are being very well cared for here, even tho the government knows that most aren’t true asylum seekers.
Too well cared for?
The UK spends far more per immigrant than any other country I have read.
Be that as it may , residents don’t want any more hotels full of AS in their towns.

woodenspoon Sun 31-Aug-25 14:05:04

We all,know that JaneJudge but we certainly don’t need more of them in the country who don’t belong here and those with medieval mindsets towards women.

JaneJudge Sun 31-Aug-25 13:55:00

Women are sadly raped by our 'own' men too and I feel exactly as I should, outraged at men that rape women

woodenspoon Sun 31-Aug-25 13:43:04

JaneJudge

I still cannot ignore that they are human beings. What have we come to?

What have we come to you say. Well do they ignore the fact that WE are human beings? The women raped and sexually assaulted by these migrants. What are you feelings on that?

JaneJudge Sun 31-Aug-25 13:35:07

I still cannot ignore that they are human beings. What have we come to?

woodenspoon Sun 31-Aug-25 13:26:38

growstuff

Immigration officers have some level of security clearance and shouldn't be sharing personal information about the people they deal with. It's a sackable offence.

I’d think that goes for the NCA too. I believe you’ve posted before that your daughter works for them. You seem very well informed on other threads about what they are doing. The rest of us, not so much.

Allira Sun 31-Aug-25 13:09:28

Refugees have lower qualifications and employment rates than the UK born
The data show that people who come to the UK to seek asylum tend to have lower levels of education compared to other migrants and the UK-born population (Figure 14). While around 16% hold high-level qualifications (NQF Level 6 and above), such as university degrees, a significant 30% have no formal qualifications – compared to just 8% among the UK born.
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/
The Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford provides impartial, independent, authoritative, evidence-based analysis of data on migration and migrants in the UK to inform media, public and policy debates.

TheatreLover Sun 31-Aug-25 13:04:48

growstuff

Immigration officers have some level of security clearance and shouldn't be sharing personal information about the people they deal with. It's a sackable offence.

Yes. It was pointed out to the poster who relayed the comments of a Border Force Officer a year or so ago was told at the time by other posters that, for the officer to release personal information about people he was dealing with as part of his job, was a sackable offence.

fancythat Sun 31-Aug-25 12:58:50

I am utterly serious.

petra Sun 31-Aug-25 12:44:17

fancythat

growstuff - do you work for the government in any way? Paid or unpaid. A government department? Used by the government? etc

As I understand things, some people are used in that way to go on social media.

Fancythat
If you’re going to post a joke could you add 😂 so we understand that it is a joke.
Just to be sure, your not serious are you?

growstuff Sun 31-Aug-25 12:36:16

Immigration officers have some level of security clearance and shouldn't be sharing personal information about the people they deal with. It's a sackable offence.

fancythat Sun 31-Aug-25 12:28:18

Your government words are fooling very few.

growstuff Sun 31-Aug-25 12:25:20

Primrose Correction - former policeman - somebody I have known since I was a teen.

fancythat Sun 31-Aug-25 12:25:05

Where.

growstuff Sun 31-Aug-25 12:23:47

fancythat

fancythat

growstuff - do you work for the government in any way? Paid or unpaid. A government department? Used by the government? etc

As I understand things, some people are used in that way to go on social media.

You have not replied so I assume yes.

As regards what the op posted - a Labour Education Spokesperson or Minister, is saying the same thing.

The genie cannot be kept in the bottle on this issue.

So what? Whoever it is, is wrong.

The words in the OP were not used in court - and the evidence is there in black and white!

growstuff Sun 31-Aug-25 12:22:32

fancythat

fancythat

growstuff - do you work for the government in any way? Paid or unpaid. A government department? Used by the government? etc

As I understand things, some people are used in that way to go on social media.

You have not replied so I assume yes.

As regards what the op posted - a Labour Education Spokesperson or Minister, is saying the same thing.

The genie cannot be kept in the bottle on this issue.

I have replied!