Stop the BBC giving prominence to Reform

Florence2

I won’t be signing. Just about had enough of Labour, they’ve done nothing to address the illegal immigrant issue, no wonder flags are popping up all over the place, how much more are we expected to take (and pay for through our taxes)? I used to be so proud to be British, sadly no longer. If I was younger I’d be seeking a new life (legally) Down Under.

Me too. Maybe New Zealand.

For TakeThat - thx for that wonderful comment, so illustrative of the ill-informed bias from a chunk of the population!

Your :- "They have been labour biased for years Not aware they are backing Reform but there's more to like with reform so wouldn't bother me. See very little BBC much prefer GB news".

Sooooo, you "see very little BBC" and "much prefer GB News" (acknowledged as a right-wing platform). IF YOU SEE "very little" -- HOW do you KNOW BBC has been (allegedly!!) "labour biased for years"?!

AND -- just to contradict that, Corbyn was SO convinced the BBC was "Labour biased" he and McDonnell proposed having Labour people on the BBC to try and control its output!! Bliar and Campbell were going down that route too, until he dropped out and handed over to Brown.

As Churchill once said, "Democracy is a wonderful system, until you spend 5 minutes with the average voter".

For SueDonim (nice name) and that "I guess we all hear what we want to hear and disregard the rest." . . . that is true, been shown to be so after research from umpteen Gen Election coverages.

Cameron started attacking the BBC when it showed him getting embarrassed by an angry voter. Corbyn wanted to have Labour people on the BBC Board when it showed him in his surly, snappy mode when asked tough questions on awkward topics. Bliar and his chief apologist Alastair Campbell wanted to control the BBC whilst in public supporting its independence.

I think you are generalising Bukkie, when you are actually referring to a few people who annoy you. I’m sure we all feel the same about different people, but being insulting doesn't help discussion on here, and insults do fly from all quarters, there’s no doubt about that.

Casdon I agree it's not right to insult people but people who vote left or have left wing views are the first to sling mud and call people names. The minute the insult is returned they are the first to complain, classic school bully behaviour. Angela Raynor's behaviour this week is a classic case. She has insulted so many people in recent years but doesn't like it now when the boot is on the other foot.

Bukkie

Berd - But people of a left persuasion are quite happy to call anyone who doesn't agree with their views as far right, stupid, uneducated, thick etc... It would appear that you lefties can hurl abuse but not take it. It would appear everyone is entitled to their views so long as they are left wing.

It cuts both ways Bukkie, do you not see that? Why are you calling people ‘you lefties’ and being so defensive? It’s not okay for anybody to say things that are insulting to anybody else.

Berd - But people of a left persuasion are quite happy to call anyone who doesn't agree with their views as far right, stupid, uneducated, thick etc... It would appear that you lefties can hurl abuse but not take it. It would appear everyone is entitled to their views so long as they are left wing.

M0nica

What should I call them Left wing supporters? leftie is no more pejorative than calling someone right wing is it merely a descriptor of a political position. Me? I am a centrist, a plague on both the extremes.

Well yes, of course it is more pejorative Monica. The equivalent of left wing is right wing. The slang term, which diminishes either side, would be leftie or rightie, wouldn’t it.

What should I call them Left wing supporters? leftie is no more pejorative than calling someone right wing is it merely a descriptor of a political position. Me? I am a centrist, a plague on both the extremes.

Bukkie Mon 01-Sept-25 18:09:11
‘M0nica - I agree with you that lefties think they are morally superior and presume those of us who don't share their views are stupid.’

Please don’t call anyone who doesn’t agree with your view a ‘leftie’. It seems to have become a term of abuse and is all over social media like the proverbial rash. It’s terribly reductive. There should be room for all opinions, and there are many more than 50 shades of grey across people’s political attitudes! That’s not to say I agree that Farage supporters are uninformed, uneducated, etc. There is a mix of people in any political movement. Calling those who don’t support Farage ‘lefties’ just confirms the kind of prejudice you object to! Sorry to rant but I feel if I read ‘leftie’ again I might explode! It’s ruined our previously pleasant local Facebook news group. That’s what scares me about Reform - very divisive.

They have been labour biased for years Not aware they are backing Reform but there's more to like with reform so wouldn't bother me See very little BBC much prefer GB news

This 'point' is ludicrous. As ever with politics (evidenced in many Gen Elections) viewers and listeners take in JUST WHAT THEY WANT TO, as per any bias they have.

YOU (OP) only think 'Reform' is being given undue prominence because it's a special bee in your bonnet, if the LibDems were having constant press conferences, they'd get more of a mention. The other day the Greens elected a new Leader, he got masses of airtime, including a nice slot on Newsnight (when they haven't been heard of for months).

As has been pointed out, Reform have gone far ahead in the polls, so all the TV companies think they ARE news, and there's an argument that Farage (like him or loathe him -- and the latter is the only sane view) should actually be put far MORE under the spotlight, to expose his hypocrisy and fag-packet (lack of) policies.

For Maizie D, yet again with that "ignoring balance" comment you are completely ill-informed. I have no liking for any party, seen too much incompetence over many years from all of them), but I take in a fair range of TV and radio coverage, and the BBC does its best to be balanced across the political spectrum. They get more coverage of late on ALL channels, due to that recent surge in support -- greatly helped by all other parties looking even more inept than usual?!

Labour lovers will doubtless be screaming that the Rayner/flat coverage was massively unfair to the poor woman, Labour haters and the cynical neutrals will likely be wondering why Starmer took longer than 30 seconds to boot her out (imagine the noises he'd have been making if that was BoJo in Hove?!). For those with a long Labour memory, perhaps she asked Mandelson and Blair's advice re dodgy property deals (PM was suspended for corruption, what, 3 or 4 times? . . . .and is now Ambassador to USA).

Terribull - well said!!

I never said Reform had 100% support across the country, I said the people we have been on holiday with. But amongst our friends and family back home the vast majority support and vote Reform now.

I also believe you Bukkie

Me too😃

TerriBull another excellent post, which I totally agree with 👏👏👏

StoneofDestiny

TerriBull

Summing up your post - the populace knows Reform are full of empty promises but they will turn to them for improvement?
Not much faith in people's judgement then.

Not sure why people in migrant hotels are perceived as predators to girls either. Our prisons are full of UK born convicted predators, murderers, rapists and burglars. These criminals lived on our streets and we walked amongst them every day. Funny - nobody thought them a threat, yet they were! Maybe because they didn't live in an asylum hostel?

Of course our prisons are full of UK born criminals, there are 70 million of us, so people born and bred here are bound to be the majority. "Funny - nobody thought them a threat, yet they were! Maybe because they didn't live in any asylum hotel"

I think you will find when one of the halfway houses/hostels for ex prisoners have been sited in a residential community the locals have kicked off because of the perceived threat. Similarly, there have been numerous vigilante groups targeting known home grown paedophiles (not that I agree with vigilantes, I'd like to make that clear) Of course we have our own criminal element, doesn't every country and they will be the majority, there'd be something seriously out of kilter if they weren't No migrant hotels won't be full of predators, but there have been cases, usually surrounded by obfuscation and lack of transparency which certainly doesn't help. There are foreign criminals in our jails who as a percentage of their numbers are disproportionately high. So! as stated given that we have our own home grown convicted predators, murders, rapists and burglars, we can't get rid of them can we? but why would we want to import foreign nationals to add to their number?

Bukkie

Those of you who say you don't know anyone who supports Reform are either very naive or living under a stone. We have just returned from two weeks in Norway, a simply beautiful unspoilt country and EVERY fellow passenger has said they voted or will vote Reform next time.

If that truly is the case, then Labour wont be in power for more than another year.

Patently 100% of the voting population do not support Reform!

Bukkie

Those of you who say you don't know anyone who supports Reform are either very naive or living under a stone. We have just returned from two weeks in Norway, a simply beautiful unspoilt country and EVERY fellow passenger has said they voted or will vote Reform next time.

I believe you, the levels of anger and despair are growing daily. Apparently Reeves is coming for our homes, pensions and savings!

I don’t believe you Bukkie, sorry. Reform does not have 100% support in any large crowd of people, no single party does. We all think differently.

Those of you who say you don't know anyone who supports Reform are either very naive or living under a stone. We have just returned from two weeks in Norway, a simply beautiful unspoilt country and EVERY fellow passenger has said they voted or will vote Reform next time.

GrannyGravy13

As Reform are leading multiple opinion polls a large proportion of the electorate are interested in them and their opinions.

And multiple opinion polls can be inaccurate, feeding misleading sensational headines to the media

publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldppdm/106/10603.htm

TerriBull

Summing up your post - the populace knows Reform are full of empty promises but they will turn to them for improvement?
Not much faith in people's judgement then.

Not sure why people in migrant hotels are perceived as predators to girls either. Our prisons are full of UK born convicted predators, murderers, rapists and burglars. These criminals lived on our streets and we walked amongst them every day. Funny - nobody thought them a threat, yet they were! Maybe because they didn't live in an asylum hostel?