Angela Rayner

semperfidelis

Some very judgemental people on here, before the case has even been properly examined.
She has actually supported her disabled son financially, while trying to keep her family circumstances private. Most of the press are hounding her as well, implying she must be 'guilty'. How unjust.

I agree.

Realky

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-23001529
Now this is Nigel Farage not paying tax at all.

Again it involves a Family Trust.

This one was set up in 2003.

Realky

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-23001529
Now this is Nigel Farage not paying tax at all.

Why does that not surprise me

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-23001529
Now this is Nigel Farage not paying tax at all.

I have just reported my own post about Angela Rayner’s house valuation in A-u-L as it is quoted directly from The Telegraph (which I subscribe to) but is of course behind a paywall. I ought not to have C&P it.

I have apologised to the mods for being a nuisance. They have enough work to do I’m sure!

PaynesGrey

Why don't you read her statement?

Because it’s all lies.

I think she should stay as an MP but perhaps consider her post as Secretary of State for Housing. She may have been badly advised or did not follow advice but it's all rather uncomfortable.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Apology accepted Casdon.

Apparently even James O’Brien on LBC said today “she has to go”.

And now the firm responsible for the conveyancing said “not us guv we advised Rayner consult a tax expert regarding Stamp Duty”.

It’s all coming out now …. Slowly.

If I were Angela Rayner I would resign tonight to keep my head held high. Unless of course the tax accountants are to blame?

More to follow yet on this story.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Casdon

FriedGreenTomatoes2

“Tax Evader Rayner” has been graffitied onto the Hove apartment development. A step too far in my opinion.

Let’s hold fire and wait for the outcome of the investigation by the Ethics Committee.

Or a statement from the firm that apparently gave ‘bad advice’.

It just says Tax Evader, I’ve seen a picture of the graffiti. I’d be freaked out if my house was identified and shown on the TV, or if I lived in another flat in that complex, because it becomes a nutcase magnet.

I knew I’d not made it up Casdon.

Apologies FGT2, I’d seen it on Sky News, and there was only one picture, outside what looked like a front door, I didn’t realise there were three or four more in different places. Guaranteed nobody looking will be in any doubt about where she lives then.

Realky

What does it matter? If she bought a second house, she had to pay the stamp duty, and it would have been refunded to her when she sold her share in the first house. It's a lot of fuss about nothing.

So you support willful tax evasion

Casdon

FriedGreenTomatoes2

“Tax Evader Rayner” has been graffitied onto the Hove apartment development. A step too far in my opinion.

Let’s hold fire and wait for the outcome of the investigation by the Ethics Committee.

Or a statement from the firm that apparently gave ‘bad advice’.

It just says Tax Evader, I’ve seen a picture of the graffiti. I’d be freaked out if my house was identified and shown on the TV, or if I lived in another flat in that complex, because it becomes a nutcase magnet.

I knew I’d not made it up Casdon.

I agree with Spinnaker: I hope not.

What does it matter? If she bought a second house, she had to pay the stamp duty, and it would have been refunded to her when she sold her share in the first house. It's a lot of fuss about nothing.

These days lawyers have much stronger protection agreements and will blame non disclosure by the client, this type fraud is common most dont get discovered, some lawyers dont ask the questions.
The question would be “ do you intend to live in the property”
“Yes” it’s that easy to save £40k ———-

stonehaven48

Having worked for a solicitor in my younger days, all I would say is that there are plenty of other people who avoided paying Stamp Duty on house purchases, helped needlessly to say, by Financial Advisors or similar. Perhaps HMRC or the government need to check this out more carefully.

I’m sure you’re right, especially having worked for a solicitor whose advice seems to be at the root of this current issue.
But is the they did it first excuse ever valid?

Unfortunate choice of words Bazza, we had just been discussing extremists.

One thing I do wonder is whether as a result of this, there will be additional requirements for all MPs to declare the full details of their property transactions to the parliamentary watchdog through their declaration of interests. I suspect there will be a lot of scrambling going on behind the scenes just now.

Having worked for a solicitor in my younger days, all I would say is that there are plenty of other people who avoided paying Stamp Duty on house purchases, helped needlessly to say, by Financial Advisors or similar. Perhaps HMRC or the government need to check this out more carefully.

growstuff

Spinnaker

Desdemona

There will be a full paper trail of all the advice she was given, the information she supplied to the advisers and a timeline of events surely?

You'd like to think so (not you specifically) but this is the labour party - it's either been shredded or doctored 😉

Don't be ridiculous!

Details of Tony Blair's expenses were unfortunately shredded when investigations began into the expenses scandal.......

Bit too much of a coincidence AR transferring her share of property to son (in a trust) just when she wanted to buy another property. There was also an isdue when she sold her previous home saying that was her main residence and not the one shared with husband even though that was the one she declared in her parliamentary details. Hope she is refunded any costs paid for all the expert advice she has received.

Siptree

She's the deputy leader of the Labour party many think she will be the next leader. Possibly a future Prime Minister if Labour survive further terms of office. She is also housing minister. If she cannot make sure that all the facts are presented and double check the advice over what should be quite a simple matter for someone who holds high office and needs to understand and facilitate matters of state she is not suitable for that position. It's not only about honesty and integrity I'm
prepared to accept it wasn't a deliberate avoidance, but the issue of her competence to understand and undertake a fairly straightforward task is very serious.

But that is why she took legal advice, she is not a lawyer. They are supposed to tell her where she stands in legal terms, she shouldn't have to "understand" these very complex aspects of law.

I think she’s toast. That green trouser suit is a sackable offence!

Allira

Iam64

The graffiti is disgusting and unproven. It’s also dreadful to identify where her apartment is. Remember Jo cox and David Amess.
We are living in volatile times. Some of the news outlets are feeding unnecessary fires

It’s also dreadful to identify where her apartment is

Yes, it is, and, because I recognised the type of building, knew the general location.

But then, MPs are people too, often live in the constituency and people know where they live, their children are at the same schools as many constituents.

There would be nothing wrong with that if there weren't people around intent upon wrongdoing.

That was my point Allira, once there is a picture online, any extremist can find their way there easily. Flats are particularly vulnerable to a fire, which could easily harm more than an intended target. It’s irresponsible of the media to post those pictures in my view.

I should add, so far she hasn’t attracted the vicious attacks in the press that Angels Raynor has

Yes Allira. My mp has regular police runs past her very ordinary home