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Asylum system ...seems mad in this case!

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Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 13:09:44

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15061481/Afghanistans-health-minister-fled-Taliban-rejected.html

It appears he was refused asylum because the Afghan Citizens Resettlement Schemme is closed not because of his application being considered against clear criteria for granting asylum. Meanwhile the NHS needs trauma surgeons ...and he is volunteering with a homeless charity in order to do something useful as he is not allowed to work!! Am I missing something here?🙄

Madgran77 Sun 07-Sept-25 11:15:24

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/09/03/former-afghan-minister-asylum-seeker-bournemouth-hotel/

Yes it's interesting as he clearly trained as a surgeon and then various reports vary in terms of how long he practised as a surgeon as opposed to in Public Health. Either way, my original key point was that his asylum application should be based on specific criteria relevant to needing/having the right to asylum. NOT on the fact that a particular "programme" linked to a specific country has closed!

butterandjam Sat 06-Sept-25 21:52:28

Madgran77

*butterandjam Or you could copy and paste the long link*
Thanks I did above but didnt work. Came up as error. Read it from your new link. Interesting re Covid stuff and leaving country "illegally"- not sure who is judging this though regarding the present govt. in Afghanistan and his statements against them

However, it appears from his history in that link ( and his Linkedin ) that he is not (as reported by the DM)

"recognised internationally for his work as a trauma surgeon".

His medical career was in health management.

www.linkedin.com/in/ferozuddin-feroz-3484a669/

Madgran77 Sat 06-Sept-25 05:50:55

butterandjam Or you could copy and paste the long link
Thanks I did above but didnt work. Came up as error. Read it from your new link. Interesting re Covid stuff and leaving country "illegally"- not sure who is judging this though regarding the present govt. in Afghanistan and his statements against them

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 20:51:40

PoliticsNerd Agreed. But it's not exactly making headline news is it. Ofcourse one also has to assume that what is being reported is accurate ...but on the information reported in the Press so far, yes it is shocking.

PoliticsNerd Fri 05-Sept-25 19:37:48

Madgran77

*PoliticsNerd. I can't read the article Madgran but from what you say isn't it likely that he just couldn't be fast-tracked? They have speeded up the process but it seems to me to make sense to speed it up even more and probably worth finding the money to do that - but then we come to the "where from?"*

I dont think so as it says his application has been refused. He is appealing against that decision. If not fast tracked then it wouldn't have been refused presumably?

That's quite shocking. It's one time I hope the press can bring pressure to bear. Thanks for sorting it out for me.

StripeyGran Fri 05-Sept-25 18:57:54

"them"

I have no idea how in the present climate ,anybody knows the percentage of those seeking asylum who are then moved onto refugee status.

sundowngirl Fri 05-Sept-25 18:45:03

StripeyGran

Sago

I read thin in the DT this morning, it beggars belief.

This man should be given asylum, no questions.

Perhaps some of the other people we know nothing about but are prepared to pre judge ,should be given asylum?

Rather than trot out rhetoric about them being sex offenders and scroungers and people who throw their documents in the sea?

Just a thought.

About 70% of them are given asylum aren’t they?

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 18:38:50

Perhaps some of the other people we know nothing about but are prepared to pre judge ,should be given asylum? Rather than trot out rhetoric about them being sex offenders and scroungers and people who throw their documents in the sea?

Personally I have never done that on or off GN!

StripeyGran Fri 05-Sept-25 18:20:48

Sago

I read thin in the DT this morning, it beggars belief.

This man should be given asylum, no questions.

Perhaps some of the other people we know nothing about but are prepared to pre judge ,should be given asylum?

Rather than trot out rhetoric about them being sex offenders and scroungers and people who throw their documents in the sea?

Just a thought.

butterandjam Fri 05-Sept-25 18:05:41

Madgran77

I cant open the link butterandjam?

tinyurl.com/5yw2v9r7

Or you could copy and paste the long link.

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 17:54:43

I cant open the link butterandjam?

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 17:52:07

PoliticsNerd. I can't read the article Madgran but from what you say isn't it likely that he just couldn't be fast-tracked? They have speeded up the process but it seems to me to make sense to speed it up even more and probably worth finding the money to do that - but then we come to the "where from?"

I dont think so as it says his application has been refused. He is appealing against that decision. If not fast tracked then it wouldn't have been refused presumably?

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 17:49:42

Sago

I read thin in the DT this morning, it beggars belief.

This man should be given asylum, no questions.

Agreed!! And at least have his application considered based on his situation NOT on some bureaucratic "scheme" being closed!!

butterandjam Fri 05-Sept-25 17:35:53

worth a look.

<https://www.afghan-bios.info/index.php?option=com_afghanbios&id=3196&task=view&total=5182&start=1441&Itemid=2>

PoliticsNerd Fri 05-Sept-25 17:18:26

Madgran77

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15061481/Afghanistans-health-minister-fled-Taliban-rejected.html

It appears he was refused asylum because the Afghan Citizens Resettlement Schemme is closed not because of his application being considered against clear criteria for granting asylum. Meanwhile the NHS needs trauma surgeons ...and he is volunteering with a homeless charity in order to do something useful as he is not allowed to work!! Am I missing something here?🙄

I can't read the article Madgran but from what you say isn't it likely that he just couldn't be fast-tracked?

They have speeded up the process but it seems to me to make sense to speed it up even more and probably worth finding the money to do that - but then we come to the "where from?"

Sago Fri 05-Sept-25 17:17:12

I read thin in the DT this morning, it beggars belief.

This man should be given asylum, no questions.

growstuff Fri 05-Sept-25 17:12:57

It's good to see the Daily Mail standing up for an asylum seeker.

growstuff Fri 05-Sept-25 17:11:17

AGAA4

Last I heard they were getting through asylum claims at pace but what pace?

snail's

AGAA4 Fri 05-Sept-25 17:04:32

Last I heard they were getting through asylum claims at pace but what pace?

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 16:42:50

www.gov.uk/claim-asylum

Babs03 Fri 05-Sept-25 15:41:43

I agree that this country has dire need of the skills that some of these asylum seekers possess. They need to be fast tracked on a point system and set to work asap.
But our immigration system is not fit for purpose.

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 13:45:05

Yes! Bit surely granting asylum should be based on clear criteria regarding asylum because of specific danger or whatever rather than because a scheme has closed. I'm searching for clear list of criteria used to grant/reject asylum but have not found it yet

GrannyGravy13 Fri 05-Sept-25 13:28:21

Sir Starmer closed the scheme July this year.

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 13:27:50

...in other words he will never be able to work here as likely to be sent back! He's appealing but ...!

Madgran77 Fri 05-Sept-25 13:26:49

Agreed. But he has actually been refused asylum because a scheme has closed not because of any clear asylum criteria; which makes it even more ridiculous!!