I don’t think Israel can wriggle out of this one, Netanyahu obviously thinks he can literally get away with anything right now and tbh he literally is getting away with a huge amount, so that attitude is understandable. But this is where he needs to be reined in before Arab allies become rattled. Certainly the whole premise of Netanyahu’s war which was to make Israel safer/more secure now has absolutely no logic, nor does his oft repeated statement that they need to get the hostages back hold any water.
Gransnet forums
News & politics
Israel hits Qatar
(174 Posts)Qatar, alongside most of the Middle Eastern countries do not see Hamas as terrorists. It is only “allies” of Israel who have classified them as terrorists.
The Middle East see Hamas as freedom fighters.
For successful peace talks it is necessary to dial down the rhetoric.
Big mistake to convince Israelis and its allies that to get rid of Hamas gets rid of the issue.
It never will, until Israel stops its land grab and suppression, and negotiates peace talks in good faith, which it certainly hasn’t done to date.
The peace talks taking place in Doha were being conducted in bad faith on Israel’s part.
Quote LaCrepescule Wed 10-Sept-25 08:58:49
Agree totally MaizieD, it’s deluded to think that having a little chat would have done anything 🙄
The Israelis are totally out of control (and when I say Israelis I mean Netanyahu and his vile henchmen.)
There are plenty of decent Israeli nationals who are as horrified by this as we are.
Has there been a poll ?
What nationality is Netanyahu and the Israeli Government?
Whitewavemark2
The U.K. could have done the same to the IRA leaders - classed as terrorists.
Just lobbed a bomb onto Dublin.
Of course we didn’t lob bombs at the IRA, we left the bombing to them.
Hamas cannot be compared to the IRA.
I do not condone this bombing, and haven’t posted as such.
I have posted that Israel should have consulted with Qatar, and a different solution agreed to eliminate the Hamas leaders who ordered the 7th October atrocities.
theworriedwell
So if Israel has information a Hamas leader is in London or Birmingham or Cardiff how do we all feel about Israel bombing Britain? Anyone think that is OK?
This was my first thought on hearing the news.
Next was like Whitewave, how would the world, especially the Americans would have reacted if our government bombed an area where it was known or suspected IRA leaders were hiding
They knew where they were !
Hamas leaders alongside Israelis and Americans were there for peace talks!
As it is Israel managed to kill innocent bystanders and zero Hamas.
Agree totally MaizieD, it’s deluded to think that having a little chat would have done anything 🙄
The Israelis are totally out of control (and when I say Israelis I mean Netanyahu and his vile henchmen.)
There are plenty of decent Israeli nationals who are as horrified by this as we are.
MaizieD
^If Israel had consulted Qatar, (which it appears that it didn’t) on this attack, it would be a different conversation.^
WHAT!
So it would have been fine if Israel had had a little chat with Qatar? “Oh, by the way, is it OK if we send a few planes across to bomb the peace discussions and eliminate some more hamas personnel. We might eliminate a few completely innocent folk who grt in the way, but you’ll be OK with that, won’t you?”
What on earth is the world coming to when people seem to think it’s fine for a country to bomb another country so long as they consulted them first?
Did you really mean to use the word ‘consult’ GG13?.
I was/am trying to be calm.
The Middle East is a tinder box at the moment.
If Israel had intelligence where the Hamas leaders were and when, they should have gone down the diplomatic route and spoken with the Qatari government.
There could (should) have been negotiations to find a way to eliminate these odious individuals.
I think the Israelis are the most terrifying StripeyGran and no step is a step too far for Netanyahu.
Until Trump condemns him, nothing will change 😢
The U.K. could have done the same to the IRA leaders - classed as terrorists.
Just lobbed a bomb onto Dublin.
If Israel had consulted Qatar, (which it appears that it didn’t) on this attack, it would be a different conversation.
WHAT!
So it would have been fine if Israel had had a little chat with Qatar? “Oh, by the way, is it OK if we send a few planes across to bomb the peace discussions and eliminate some more hamas personnel. We might eliminate a few completely innocent folk who grt in the way, but you’ll be OK with that, won’t you?”
What on earth is the world coming to when people seem to think it’s fine for a country to bomb another country so long as they consulted them first?
Did you really mean to use the word ‘consult’ GG13?.
So if Israel has information a Hamas leader is in London or Birmingham or Cardiff how do we all feel about Israel bombing Britain? Anyone think that is OK?
nanna8
Netanyahu has lost the plot now. He will lose a lot of support and sympathy by doing this.
I'm with you now on this one.
I'm quite surprised Israel did not assassinate the Hamas leadership living in luxury in Qatar years ago. It could have decapitated the terrorist leadership before October 7th.
Terrifying, the whole lot.
I was surprised that Mr Netanyahu felt that this was a sensible move. Mr Trump, his major ( only ?) ally, likes to cosy up to Qatar, and although he is unpredictable in his allegiances, he does have monetary interest in this part of the world, and may be moved to fall out with Mr Netanyahu.
Netanyahu has lost the plot now. He will lose a lot of support and sympathy by doing this.
Attacking a sovereign state is wrong.
We must sooooo keep to that principle or we are lost.
If Israel had consulted Qatar, (which it appears that it didn’t) on this attack, it would be a different conversation.
Not negotiating the attack with Qatari leaders is an act of aggression.
I do acknowledge that the line is blurred between how much support there is between Hamas and Qatar.
Israel appears to be under the impression that it has a free rein to go after Hamas wherever they are…
WWM2 - Trump may well condemn Netanyahu for his actions today but could be his biggest cheerleader tomorrow. The man is as much good as a chocolate teapot.
babs03 we are discussing this on another thread, but I think it is so important, it probably deserves its own thread.
Violating another states sovereign territory whatever the reason is never done. To do so brings a world that I am sure none of us would like closer. World leaders must sanction israel swiftly and strongly.
Otherwise what next? India bombing Canada because of the Sikh separatists? China bombing Taiwan? Ignore Putins bombing Ukraine? The future of might is right would not be a world any of us would wish to live in I’m sure.
World leaders, particularly western allies of Israel are appalled.
I see Trump is mad - not that he ever does anything sensible.
Regardless of this Annie Israel cannot just attack sovereign states with impunity. Hamas will not stand up as a sufficient enough reason to bomb other countries like this. Especially countries that are firm allies of the west and the US.
And again I ask the question do you suppose that this sort of campaign makes the state of Israel safer in the region?
From 2012, Qatar hosted the Hamas party leadership when Hamas head Khaled Mashal relocated from Syria to Qatar. The former head of Hamas, Ismail Haniyeh, had resided in Doha since 2016 until his death in 2024. Qatar has been called Hamas' most important financial backer and foreign ally.
en.wikipedia.org
Is this finally a step too far for Netanyahu, hitting, not what is perceived as an enemy state like Iran but a firm ally of the west, particularly the US. A mother of a hostage in Israel says that Netanyahu has now handed her son a death sentence by his aggression.
Should any first world nation have this kind of impunity?
And with Qatar threatening to respond how is Israel making the state of Israel safer by its actions?
Join the conversation
Registering is free, easy, and means you can join the discussion, watch threads and lots more.
Register now »Already registered? Log in with:
Gransnet »

