Charlie Kirk shot

So for me, I don't want people shot for things they say (yes there could be another motive but that seems unlikely) and even putting that aside until we know, I don't want to be associated with those who think it is ok to celebrate it. The implications for me are I would vote against that 'tribe' in any way I could.

That is what I’m asking those with strong reactions ronib, because I don’t see them.

What are the implications that we’re supposed to be seeing? Casdon

Nobody wants to see any politician killed or harmed in any way, and feels very sad, and angry at the waste of life, and for those who love them.
It’s when that is all they see, rather than the implications of the death of a significant figure as well that I would question their stance.

Galaxy

I don't think Trump needs to do anything, this has just ensured Vance (if he remains in favour) will be the next President.

I think you may be correct on this 🤷‍♀️

I don't think Trump needs to do anything, this has just ensured Vance (if he remains in favour) will be the next President.

I feel incredibly sad about it all. I would feel the same whichever party they had belonged to.

RIP

Whatever this man’s political views were, a wife and two young daughters, as well as other family members and associates are bereft, robbed of their loved one as are many others every day particularly in the USA.

RIP 💐

He wants civil unrest so he can suspend our rights and take away our vote IMO

I don't think just in your opinion. Its straight out I've the handbook for dictatorship.

Some people are unable to separate the personal from the political. It’s a running theme on Gransnet.

As I said, intolerance of the views of others.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

eazybee

It is intolerance which is responsible for the murder of this man, of whom I had never heard of previously; the intolerance of the murderer against views with which he/she did not agree.

In one. 🎯

NO it s not just intolerance of his views it’s intolerance of his incitement to hatred of certain people, immigrants, blacks, women.. that were spewing out hatred for our children to hear and learn from
He had vile views and he was an influencer of the next generation No one deserves to die at the hands of another but it is very ironic that he was killed by his weapon of choice
I do not mourn him

Our taxpayer dollars paid for his body to be flown to Arizona onAir Force 2 (which means Vance was on board).

It cost $30,000 an hour to operate Air Force 2. Mr Kirk was not a politician. He was a podcaster who sowed hate. They are acting like he was a natural treasure.

I haven't seen it, but apparently some MAGA influencers are reportedly making kill lists in anticipation of a purge (like the movie).

He wants civil unrest so he can suspend our rights and take away our vote IMO.

Sago ,you also requested the reference to this quote.
Sorry it's all so disjointed - I'm juggling childcare and domestic duties, in a foreign country!

back to you. Mr Kirk's speech was on July 24th, 2023.

Rosie, yesterday: sorry to take so long to get

Charlie Kirk was just one of over 110 US citizens shot dead every single day, of whom at least 10 are under 18. That is what he stood for.

It looks like Trump will pull out all the stops to declare a National Energency leading to any election being suspended. There are too many rumours going around to relegate the matter to fantasy land.

He's ambitiously mean enough to do it. He'll be Putin II.

One lone young assassin from video surveillance posted so far. How can Trump claim an emergency on this basis? America is no stranger to the brutal assassination of its political figures.
It has a long history.

foxie48

I wonder if Trump actually wants civil unrest on a large scale. it would enable him to move more troops in , claim an emergency and halt elections. Just a thought!

It's certainly beginning to seem that way.

I wonder if Trump actually wants civil unrest on a large scale. it would enable him to move more troops in , claim an emergency and halt elections. Just a thought!

Department of war is the new name of department of defense, by the way.

Another shooting at the Naval Academy. Multiple other college campuses received threats and were locked down.

I think it is to late.

This is the person responsible the rhetoric in this country. He made it acceptable to be violent every time he posts something like this.

ironic: causing wry amusement
contrary to what is expected
something humorous

About a murder?