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Donald Trump State visit 16-18 September 2025

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Magenta8 Sat 13-Sept-25 18:03:37

Security will have to be sky high and protests are predicted as one the most unpopular world leaders comes to visit the royal family.

Casdon Tue 16-Sept-25 20:51:04

We don’t buy Russian oil GrannyGravy13, it is under embargo in the UK, but other European countries do.

Oreo Tue 16-Sept-25 20:43:42

Wondering if they serve burgers at State Banquets?
Everything in Windsor will be safely behind the walls of the castle apparently, probably for the best.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 16-Sept-25 20:39:13

Casdon we could use ours from the North Sea as opposed to buying from Norway which extracts from … the North Sea 🤷‍♀️

Casdon Tue 16-Sept-25 20:26:14

GrannyGravy13

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And Trump’s right - Europe must stop buying Russian oil.

Abso-bloody-lutely 👍🏻

As long as they don’t buy it from USA instead.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 16-Sept-25 20:20:29

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And Trump’s right - Europe must stop buying Russian oil.

Abso-bloody-lutely 👍🏻

Deedaa Tue 16-Sept-25 20:18:44

My son was doing his deliveries round Windsor today and he said the inhabitants really aren't happy about all the upheaval.

Cossy Tue 16-Sept-25 20:12:32

foxie48

Despite absolute loathing for Trump and not being a Royalist I am hoping the visit is a wonderful example of how impressive we can be at putting on a state occasion. Basically we're "playing" Trump so let's do it well. There's absolutely no mileage in hosting this vile man unless as a country we get something out of it.
I think we have to be grown up about Trump and his ability to harm this country so as we're no longer the rich powerful country we were, we hold our nose and use diplomacy.
His visit will be carefully planned to give bim pomp behind closed doors! No one wants crowds lining the streets with jeers instead of flags! Two days of creeping round the creep with crocodile smiles. Pity about Mandelson, a man made for the job IMO but sadly very flawed, he could have shared gossip with Trump about the good old days!

👏👏👏👏👏👏

foxie48 Tue 16-Sept-25 19:38:37

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And Trump’s right - Europe must stop buying Russian oil.

We're not usually in agreement but I absolutely agree. Buying Russian oil is paying for arms to fight Ukraine. I think Germany has reduced it's dependence but it will have to do more. I loathe Trump but he sometimes points out things that we would prefer to ignore!

valdavi Tue 16-Sept-25 19:05:53

ronib

UK on the verge of calling in the IMF. We need the USA far more than they need us? Island mentality isn’t helping.
It isn’t the first time that the royal family has hosted a very dubious type. It hosted the President of Nigeria immediately after the Biafran genocide. Not to mention a particular family member ….

I agree Ronib.
It's easy for us to say we wouldn't invite him because we despise his style & what he stands for (transiently).
USA is our most important ally since Brexit, & too powerful (& have too many impressive people who don't support Trump) for us to snub their Head of State.
Much though Charles mayn't approve of Trump's politics, it is an area where the Royal family play a huge role. Things where electoral distaste means elected politicians can't be too chummy, the Royal family can offer apolitical hospitality and open the road to dialogue (or in this case, keep him onside which may be helpful with Gaza as well as economically).

Think of the late Queen with Martin McGuiness, Princess Diana with AIDS patients. The original "influencers".

Grantanow Tue 16-Sept-25 18:53:33

Trump is an important factor and the Royals are doing their bit in our long term interests. We've hosted far worse - Ceaușescu, Mugabe, Pinochet.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 16-Sept-25 18:41:30

And Trump’s right - Europe must stop buying Russian oil.

butterandjam Tue 16-Sept-25 17:19:10

FriedGreenTomatoes2

think we are missing the point and getting caught up in the people involved.

This is not the Charles and Donald show.

This is Britain showing the world that it honours the USA and the USA showing they are honoured.

Also, it's the UK showing how to do a proper military parade.

Not like that shambles on Trump's birthday.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/15/trump-army-parade

TheatreLover Tue 16-Sept-25 17:09:52

Maremia

Three times voted in, is now an historical fact.

It is true that many car drivers dislike Sadiq Khan for discouraging unnecessary car journeys around London. Those of us who actually live in the city are grateful for the improved air quality. That alone justifies him having been voted in as Mayor three times.

Maremia Tue 16-Sept-25 16:49:46

Three times voted in, is now an historical fact.

Maremia Tue 16-Sept-25 16:48:48

The scientific facts about the vast improvement in air quality in London are oblivious to political bias.

AGAA4 Tue 16-Sept-25 16:40:59

I don't think it matters how Trump behaves the king and others will behave with their usual politeness.
Trump is exceedingly outclassed.

The balloon on his last visit just made people look as crass as Trump is.

butterandjam Tue 16-Sept-25 16:38:42

Jane112

The royal family could refuse to meet Trump, this nonsense that they have no choice is pathetic, individuals ALWAYS have a choice, what they mean is it might cost them and they'd rather prostrate themselves before the rapist than show any integrity.

You have perhaps forgotten that the invitation was personally written by Charles himself, the letter was handed to Trump by Starmer in the White House, opened and read, on public TV.

Charles can't get out of it, but I see Camilla has already flagged up a sick note (missed the Duchess of Kent funeral).

Astitchintime Tue 16-Sept-25 16:22:59

Well, I hope he got the brief this time on how to behave and conduct oneself during a royal visit! Last time he behaved like a total buffoon! He was an embarrassment!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 16-Sept-25 16:20:10

Sarnia

Maremia

Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, is the first person to have been voted three times into this position. He must be doing something correct.

Did you happen to notice the alternatives on those 3 occasions? Little wonder he got in. London deserves better.

Yep, totally agree 👍

Casdon Tue 16-Sept-25 16:20:08

Nobody is voted into power three times, with an increased majority, unless the population votes for them above all-comers. That reality makes rubbishing him for his achievements look rather silly.

In any case, Trump’s visit is not about Sadiq Khan at all.

Sarnia Tue 16-Sept-25 16:08:15

Maremia

Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, is the first person to have been voted three times into this position. He must be doing something correct.

Did you happen to notice the alternatives on those 3 occasions? Little wonder he got in. London deserves better.

Maremia Tue 16-Sept-25 16:03:20

The ULEZ has significantly reduced roadside nitrogen dioxide and particulate matter polution against London.
For much more great detail, just ask Google.

Babs03 Tue 16-Sept-25 16:02:43

Sorry the last comment was a reply to sundowngirl.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 16-Sept-25 16:01:51

sundowngirl don’t forget designer watch and mini,e phone theft.

There are roads in London with a stripe on the pavement warning of mugging danger

Babs03 Tue 16-Sept-25 16:01:38

Well in that case just outline your discontents with regard to his competence. Everyone has a right to an opinion. But the odious little man remark is unnecessary.