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Donald Trump State visit 16-18 September 2025

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Magenta8 Sat 13-Sept-25 18:03:37

Security will have to be sky high and protests are predicted as one the most unpopular world leaders comes to visit the royal family.

Crossstitchfan Sat 13-Sept-25 18:07:47

Think of the cost to the UK, the cancelled Police rest days and holidays (and presumably those of other people involved, Marshall’s etc). We don’t even want him here!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 13-Sept-25 18:15:12

Groan! What On earth is the point of him. What has he achieved except chaos in the USA?

butterandjam Sat 13-Sept-25 22:48:58

I shall not be surprised if the visit is cancelled at the last minute. A security alert. Or Charles will be unwell and "sadly have to postpone the visit " .

Anything rather than be asked by Trump about Mandelson/ Epstein/ security/ P Harry/ asylum seekers

Greenfinch Sat 13-Sept-25 22:57:22

The best thing would be if everyone just totally ignored the visit. They won’t of course and Trump will revel in the reception be it positive or negative.

Allira Sat 13-Sept-25 23:17:15

I feel sorry for Charles and Camilla and the rest of the Royal Family who have to entertain him.
Keep smiling grin
It's only a couple of days.

specki4eyes Sun 14-Sept-25 08:45:32

What on earth were 'they' thinking when this was promised? An already convicted felon, a misogynist, a racist, a man who exploits his position to incite violent, deadly, destructive riots? What in the name of God can justify this? Trade deals? He could renege on those on a whim! And in any case, does money make it justifiable? Why hasn't the King said no to this? How do you explain to young people that all the things you have taught them about right and wrong can be forgotten...because this vile bully must be appeased? I am incensed.

ronib Sun 14-Sept-25 09:03:52

UK on the verge of calling in the IMF. We need the USA far more than they need us? Island mentality isn’t helping.
It isn’t the first time that the royal family has hosted a very dubious type. It hosted the President of Nigeria immediately after the Biafran genocide. Not to mention a particular family member ….

foxie48 Sun 14-Sept-25 09:04:45

Much as I loathe Trump I think the Government (with the help of the King) is "playing" him rather well. The saying, "keep your friends close but your enemies closer" is apt for dealing with Trump. Controversial, I know, but Mandelson (I loathe him too) was the perfect US ambassador to deal with Trump, they have a lot more in common than being close friends with the vile Epstein! Politics can be a dirty business and the King will be earning some of his takings from the public purse next week. At least whilst Trump is playing at being royalty next week it will hopefully keep him from making too many ill considered hasty decisions.....well I live in hope!

keepingquiet Sun 14-Sept-25 09:12:01

foxie48

Much as I loathe Trump I think the Government (with the help of the King) is "playing" him rather well. The saying, "keep your friends close but your enemies closer" is apt for dealing with Trump. Controversial, I know, but Mandelson (I loathe him too) was the perfect US ambassador to deal with Trump, they have a lot more in common than being close friends with the vile Epstein! Politics can be a dirty business and the King will be earning some of his takings from the public purse next week. At least whilst Trump is playing at being royalty next week it will hopefully keep him from making too many ill considered hasty decisions.....well I live in hope!

Yep diplomacy is the clean face of the dirty business of politcs.

Trump will soon be home again.

Grandmabatty Sun 14-Sept-25 09:12:20

I suspect it is the role of president of USA that is being hosted, not the actual person of trump. I don't think it was necessary to offer a second state visit but I'm not a politician. The man is a buffoon.

OldFrill Sun 14-Sept-25 09:17:57

specki4eyes

What on earth were 'they' thinking when this was promised? An already convicted felon, a misogynist, a racist, a man who exploits his position to incite violent, deadly, destructive riots? What in the name of God can justify this? Trade deals? He could renege on those on a whim! And in any case, does money make it justifiable? Why hasn't the King said no to this? How do you explain to young people that all the things you have taught them about right and wrong can be forgotten...because this vile bully must be appeased? I am incensed.

You explain to young people that there is Trump and there is the position of the POTUS. You explain how one is despicable but the other must be nurtured by all diplomatic means possible, because without the USA we are potentially at war and will be decimated.
KC etc all have to do all to maintain positive diplomatic ties to favour the UK, basically that's all his role is, he can't be picky. He's both our last resort and all we've now got.

OldFrill Sun 14-Sept-25 09:18:37

KC et al

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 14-Sept-25 09:59:05

I agree with you, foxie, Grandmabatty and Old Frill.
I'd like to see empty streets as his cavalcade glides by.

Magenta8 Sun 14-Sept-25 10:00:25

In the past QEII had to endure state visits from Ceauscescu, Amin, Mugabe and other dubious characters.

The best advice for the public is ignore the visit as far as possible as the orange baby just loves and thrives on any attention whether it is positive or negative.

ronib Sun 14-Sept-25 10:01:03

I expect Trump would like empty streets too - less likely to be shot?

Magenta8 Sun 14-Sept-25 10:01:32

In hindsight I regret starting this thread and drawing attention to the forthcoming visit.

Jane112 Sun 14-Sept-25 10:13:47

The royal family could refuse to meet Trump, this nonsense that they have no choice is pathetic, individuals ALWAYS have a choice, what they mean is it might cost them and they'd rather prostrate themselves before the rapist than show any integrity.

ronib Sun 14-Sept-25 10:23:54

This I have to see Jane112….

Allira Sun 14-Sept-25 10:57:19

Jane112

The royal family could refuse to meet Trump, this nonsense that they have no choice is pathetic, individuals ALWAYS have a choice, what they mean is it might cost them and they'd rather prostrate themselves before the rapist than show any integrity.

They are not Judy individuals, though, are they!

The King is our Head of State as this country has a Constitutional Monarchy.
Trump is the POTUS of the United States of America so it is one Head of State receiving another Head of State, not two chums having a visit. Personal feelings do not come into it.

It's called diplomacy.

Allira Sun 14-Sept-25 10:57:39

Judy just

Allira Sun 14-Sept-25 10:59:43

I do hope they don't get that daft Trump baby balloon out again.
It really was childish. The British public is surely better than that.

sundowngirl Sun 14-Sept-25 11:06:19

Allira

I do hope they don't get that daft Trump baby balloon out again.
It really was childish. The British public is surely better than that.

Unfortunately that’s how childish and stupid Sadiq Khan is. Thinks he is being clever. Odious little man

specki4eyes Mon 15-Sept-25 22:05:44

Some call it diplomacy, I call it appeasement. Like many, I chose to leave the country of my birth many years ago, but I still want to feel proud of it. How can I be, when Americans, recently arrived here in France to escape the worst excesses of their monstrous leader, ask me why Britain is giving credence and status to him. I have no answer. Britain abandoned its safest and most credible ally, the EU, in 2016. As a respected and nurtured member state, she had the security and support of our vast continent. Was Brexit a display of British diplomacy? Of course not.
Appeasement didn't work in the 1930s and Donald Trump should never be trusted to guard our interests however many red carpets and obsequious appeasers are rolled out to feed his greedy narcissism.

JenniferEccles Mon 15-Sept-25 22:46:35

The Trump baby balloon was an appalling gaffe and it was an absolute disgrace that the ghastly Khan allowed it to stay during the last state visit.

I hope this visit is financially beneficial to our country, as of course that is what this visit is all about.