1 in 1 out, not even off the ground at first attempt.

Who is going to eat their words first?
news.sky.com/story/home-office-wins-second-legal-challenge-over-deportation-flights-under-one-in-one-out-deal-13433425

I had a quick look on LégiFrance, the French government's legal site, and it appears that France has a reciprocal arrangement with India to accept enforced returns.

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westendgirl

One has gone

Yes, today. Arrived by plane in Paris.

I'm a bit confused though, as he was Indian, and in 2021, the UK and India agreed a migration and mobility partnership that includedprovisions on returns.

This means that we could have sent him straight back to India, doesn't it?

put the flags out! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

We have got rid of one!

This Indian man knows if he goes to France they will give him £2,800 to go to India.

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westendgirl

One has gone

Yes, today. Arrived by plane in Paris.

I'm a bit confused though, as he was Indian, and in 2021, the UK and India agreed a migration and mobility partnership that includedprovisions on returns.

This means that we could have sent him straight back to India, doesn't it?

I don’t get that either.

Have you visited places where they all live together? Complete dumps

westendgirl

One has gone

Yes, today. Arrived by plane in Paris.

I'm a bit confused though, as he was Indian, and in 2021, the UK and India agreed a migration and mobility partnership that includedprovisions on returns.

This means that we could have sent him straight back to India, doesn't it?

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: too many in the UK with vested interests: the lawyers, the charities, the support workers, interpreters, owners of hotels and HMOs. Nothing will ever change. The country is finished.

One has gone

According to AI
In the UK, the government pays for the lawyers representing individuals in immigration and human rights cases, including those deemed "illegal immigrants," through a legal aid funding system. Individuals who qualify for this funding do not pay for their legal costs, and the lawyers are paid through contracts awarded by the government to provide these services.

The overall cost of legal aid in these cases is covered by taxpayers.

Cases where legal aid has been used include the successful defence of individuals against deportation orders, such as the case of Abu Qatada, where the government paid for lawyers to fight his deportation

I’m all for putting the Human Rights Lawyers on the next flight out.

Shabana Mahmood, the new Home Secretary has made a strong statement of intent to 'secure our borders'.

Even with some Charities[no idea if all] they are part funded by the government.
The one I used to volunteer for, the figure was 70% paid for by the government.
When I started with it, I used to think, there is no way the rattling of tins collecting money, or a sponsered something or other, was going to pay for all that was involved with the charity.

Do we actually know who pays the Human Rights Lawyers fees

Good question.

Do we actually know who pays the Human Rights Lawyers fees? I was talking to someone the other day who said they were paid by Charities unless the immigrant is a minor. Obviously it costs the Government money to appeal.

I have just heard an item in breakfast news (ITV) regarding the current one in one out agreement.

Apparently when irregular migrants are met by Home Office officials on the arrival onshore, they are given an information pack which contains details of lawyers, rights etc.

Basically the Home Office are giving them details on how to fight the Home Office.

Sounds a bit farcical to me, Home Office is trying to put people on flights, only to be thwarted by lawyers who’ve been given to the would be asylum seekers by the Home Office.

The new Home Secretary has made a statement which basically says our laws were not meant to be used like this

Immigration is a very nice little gravy train for certain groups:-

The aforesaid human rights lawyers who are paid from the public purse

The owners of the hotels where migrants are currently lodged.

Landlords of HMOs where others are being housed.

All this taxpayer money is going into private pockets.

To be fair to France, they do take lots of French speaking Algerians and Moroccans, I think up to 80% in the case of the former.

The French are playing us for mugs. They stand by and let these poor folks get into unsafe boats instead of granting them asylum right there.
We are paying them to stop the boats and now we are taking their asylum seekers in swap for those who made it across.
Eritreans often speak Italian, and Southern Italy have empty homes waiting for people to go and revive their populations; Somalis often speak French, but are being given the impression that the French will send them home (horses mouth from a Somali support worker)
But somehow WE are the villains. Sorry if it sounds uncaring, but we do not need to send them back to their home countries - the answer is to put some social workers on the French camps showing them how to claim asylum right there.

Good. Pointless cruelty.

😂

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Ladyleftfieldlover

It took the Tories 14 years to get absolutely nowhere with their immigration plan!

and anything that the Tories did in 14 years, Labour does in months.

You mean failed with their plan in a shorter time that it took the Tories to fail??

Kandinsky

*Those on yesterday’s flight were stopped by Human Rights Lawyers.*

This is why we’ll never stop them coming.

I agree the whole scheme was always a joke and deeply flawed from start to finish.

As for Human Rights Lawyers.
A bunch of shysters?

With the biggest one, KS of the sat on his fat arse in Downing Street running thevshoww and pulling the strings.

He seems to think he is the Defender of Mankind.

Got to do

Wasn't Kier Starmer one of these Human Rights lawyers?? His heart isn't really in sending anyone back.

I agree.
But why is he making himself look even more[and I cant think of the right word], inept?

I wrote on a thread a couple of days ago[no idea which one] that he is not running the Country. There are about 3 other Labour people who are.
Are they deliberately "tripping him up"?

I take this thread as just being another reason to have a go at the PM.
Indeed. Starmer was initially so jubilant about the one in, one out, you'd think he'd won the lottery. Instead of which, it is a complete debacle. Silly man.

Kandinsky Think it may be people coming from Europe as we are a member of the ECHR, European Convention on Human Rights.
Human Rights lawyers must be very busy.