1 in 1 out, not even off the ground at first attempt.

Sigh.

It took the Tories 14 years to get absolutely nowhere with their immigration plan!

Yes we know it took the Conservatives 14 years to not get very far with either Rwanda or their deportation flights, which were prevented by Human Rights Lawyers.

Those on yesterday’s flight were stopped by Human Rights Lawyers.

It’s not as easy being in government as Labour thought.

Have we actually sent any back yet?
All these plans the government come up with to tackle the small boats problem never seems to come to anything.

Those on yesterday’s flight were stopped by Human Rights Lawyers.

This is why we’ll never stop them coming.

Bloody Human Rights. Pain in the arse.

Ladyleftfieldlover

It took the Tories 14 years to get absolutely nowhere with their immigration plan!

Exactly. This is why ........ the legal challenges along the way.
Where I'm coming from on this, is couldn't everyone have foreseen this with 1 in 1 out, especially lawyer?

Bloody Human Rights. Pain in the arse

Have I got the right to turn up at any country, no passport, no record of my past, & be allowed to stay?

There has to be a way to organise this mess. We have lost our humanity somewhere along the way.

It is said Human Rights Lawyers, and their Practices, make a huge amount of money from this.

Who is paying them?

eazybee

It is said Human Rights Lawyers, and their Practices, make a huge amount of money from this.

Who is paying them?

If they have Legal Aid, I imagine it comes from a Government Department (our taxes, but as we know they do not fund spending).

StripeyGran

There has to be a way to organise this mess. We have lost our humanity somewhere along the way.

Not at all.
This is an agreement between us and France, it does nothing for actual numbers but was meant for us to exchange an asylum seeker to France and accept another with links of some kind to the UK .
I always doubted it would work and so far it hasn’t.

This from The Guardian re somebody waiting to be sent back.

Fessahaye, is an asylum seeker from Eritrea who fled indefinite military conscription in his home country, and walked through the Sahara before being tortured and enslaved in Libya

Tortured and enslaved, think about it. Or rather don't.

Nobody is in favour of unregulated mass immigration but surely handling this with compassion would be something to feel proud of.

Kandinsky

*Bloody Human Rights. Pain in the arse*

Have I got the right to turn up at any country, no passport, no record of my past, & be allowed to stay?

Under International Law, if you claim asylum as soon as you set foot on their land I believe the answer is yes!

eazybee

It is said Human Rights Lawyers, and their Practices, make a huge amount of money from this.

Who is paying them?

There are many Aslyum
Charities

Wasn't Kier Starmer one of these Human Rights lawyers?? His heart isn't really in sending anyone back.

Who is vetting these immigrants that France will send us in exchange? Is it the French or do we have people on the ground in France doing this vetting?

Kandinsky

*Bloody Human Rights. Pain in the arse*

Have I got the right to turn up at any country, no passport, no record of my past, & be allowed to stay?

As long as it's the UK you come to..yes looks that way

Under International Law, if you claim asylum as soon as you set foot on their land I believe the answer is yes!

Well then it’s pointless any government trying to find a solution to this problem, because as soon as they set foot here they’ll be allowed to stay.
The human rights act needs amending & I’ll vote for anyone who’ll do that.

StripeyGran

This from The Guardian re somebody waiting to be sent back.

Fessahaye, is an asylum seeker from Eritrea who fled indefinite military conscription in his home country, and walked through the Sahara before being tortured and enslaved in Libya

Tortured and enslaved, think about it. Or rather don't.

Nobody is in favour of unregulated mass immigration but surely handling this with compassion would be something to feel proud of.

1. why was he tortured and enslaved in Libya

2. Many countries have military conscription, even in Europe

StripeyGran

This from The Guardian re somebody waiting to be sent back.

Fessahaye, is an asylum seeker from Eritrea who fled indefinite military conscription in his home country, and walked through the Sahara before being tortured and enslaved in Libya

Tortured and enslaved, think about it. Or rather don't.

Nobody is in favour of unregulated mass immigration but surely handling this with compassion would be something to feel proud of.

Or so he claims?

The human rights bunch will always step in until we suspend the ECHR and 1951 migrant agreements.

How did Australia get around these for their tough immigration policy? They established agreements with other countries to process asylum seekers outside Australia so that they could not seek asylum within the country. In essence, Australia's strategy involves an "externalization" of its border protection policies, shifting the responsibility for housing and processing asylum seekers to other nations.

I doubt any British government (other than Reform) would adopt this stance.

So far so predictable that the human rights lawyers would operate against us - no surprises there when I saw a photo of a fair-size group of them the other day and thought "I do hope they're supporting the country they or their parents came to....." about most of them. Where do their loyalties lie?

An article in today's newspapers saying that there is greater implications than we thought re our housing. An over-55 guy that broke into our country has been housed in over-55 accommodation. It's not clear whether we have spare accommodation or no in that sector - but I'd be willing to bet we haven't. Cue for him bringing over his much younger wife and the very young children they've had into that "over 55" accommodation. The children were allowed to make a lot of noise by the sound of it by their parents - and so, not surprisingly other residents have pointed out he's the only one over 55 and are asking why his family is allowed to be there and complaining about the childrens noise (as they are way away from being in that agegroup). He's fighting being kicked out of it and I'm thinking "How many bets he's going to fight a legal fight (at our expense) to keep them there?"

So it looks like we might well get a situation as to where do our over 55's find "over-55 accommodation" to live in if the principle gets allowed to be broken that that is there specifically only for that agegroup?

The Government seems to be grabbing for every type of housing there is - be it hotels, brand new housing meant for one of our households, privately rented little terrace houses, student accommodation, nurses accommodation (I believe). Now over 55 accommodation as well and there doesnt seem to be ANY of our accommodation being left sacrosanct as to be used only for the purpose and the people it's meant for.

GrannyGravy13

StripeyGran

This from The Guardian re somebody waiting to be sent back.

Fessahaye, is an asylum seeker from Eritrea who fled indefinite military conscription in his home country, and walked through the Sahara before being tortured and enslaved in Libya

Tortured and enslaved, think about it. Or rather don't.

Nobody is in favour of unregulated mass immigration but surely handling this with compassion would be something to feel proud of.

1. why was he tortured and enslaved in Libya

2. Many countries have military conscription, even in Europe

I can scarcely be bothered but

1. Amnesty has information on this. I have spoken to people who have direct experience.

2 Reportedly, many conscripts live in terrible conditions, and are essentially used for slave labor, subjected to severe physical punishments for trying to escape, and are at the mercy of their commanders

Oreo

StripeyGran

This from The Guardian re somebody waiting to be sent back.

Fessahaye, is an asylum seeker from Eritrea who fled indefinite military conscription in his home country, and walked through the Sahara before being tortured and enslaved in Libya

Tortured and enslaved, think about it. Or rather don't.

Nobody is in favour of unregulated mass immigration but surely handling this with compassion would be something to feel proud of.

Or so he claims?

Well yes?