Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

Whitewavemark2

? Well yes I think we can all agree with that sentiment, but unclear what it has to do with the conversation.

History lessons again WWM.
But don’t think that includes the history of the Palestinians, apparently there is no history worth noting there prior to Oct 7th 2023.

I replied to a post which spoke of next generations not forgetting

Anniebach

The horrors of The Holocaust and those who came after ,

I was told ‘not that old chestnut’ when mentioning matters historical, so does that only apply to the history of Palestinian suffering?
Genuine question.

? Well yes I think we can all agree with that sentiment, but unclear what it has to do with the conversation.

Never Again

? Bit random?

The horrors of The Holocaust and those who came after ,

Anniebach

Hamas is not defeated if still operating,

The ideology of Hamas will never be defeated as long as the Israelis continue to oppress the Palestinians.

In fact I suspect this war has been the biggest recruitment driver for years.

Many young orphans will grow up hating Israel.

Hamas is not defeated if still operating,

anniei can only reiterate what agaahas said.

The IDF, have told the world that there is absolutely no point in carrying on militarily.

Hamas in Gaza was defeated months ago. The IDF told Netanyahu that it was over militarily but he wants to wipe out all the Palestinians for his own aims.
An IDF soldier admitted to a reporter who was given a 2 hour slot in Gaza at the beginning of the war that they don't kill civilians but then he laughed and said but they are all Hamas. Even children it seems.

Quote AGAA4 Wed 24-Sept-25 11:38:42
Hamas leaders are in Qatar Anniebach. Israel tried to bomb them recently and failed. Most of those in Gaza have been killed.

So haven’t been defeated

ronib

Proof? AGAA4

Have you proof that they are not?

Proof? AGAA4

Hamas leaders are in Qatar Anniebach. Israel tried to bomb them recently and failed. Most of those in Gaza have been killed.

Not if defeated months ago

Hamas can agree as they've done previously Annie.

No government in Gaza, why talk of a ceasefire? Who can agree or disagree?

Trump just parrots Netanyahu. Nobody is handing Hamas a victory and they know it as do all the countries who have recognised Palestine as a state.
Those countries do not want to be complicit in genocide.
The US is complicit. Trump is only interested in Gaza as a money making project and making peace would not be in his plan.
The US and Israel have blood on their hands as does Hamas but they were defeated months ago and yet the killing continues.

foxie48

Well he didn't disappoint! 15 minute speech went on for an hour of Trump telling Europe that their countries are being destroyed by unmanaged immigration, the UK has rewarded Hamas by recognising the state of Palestine and yet another attack on the Mayor of London, who is a "terrible" mayor and London wants to have "sharia" law. Oh and the UN is useless! TBH no one needs to listen to Trump's rambling, just go for Trump lite and listen to Farage, who I actually think is still capable of sane thought but only if you want to live in a country shaped by Farage and I don't!

He says some crazy stuff at times but also things with nuggets of truth in them.
Europe is being destroyed by unmanaged immigration, the UN is useless and it was a bad move by the UK to hand a ‘victory’ to hamas by recognition of a State of Palestine with no strings attached such as the handover of all hostages.

Then, Maybee, that statement I quoted from Netanyahu is somewhat curious then, is it not?

And the first I quoted too?

How could they leave? They have nowhere to go? Even their coastline isn’t their.

On that atrocious day of 07:10:23 I remember Netanyahu making his statement in response to the abhorrent actions of Hamas. I watched and listened to the translation.in real time.

At the time there was something, I wasn't sure why, except perhaps because I was so shocked by the events, I missed or didn't take in from what he said.
That stuck with me.

Two days ago, I don't know why I didn't do so sooner, I decided to read the transcript of Netanyahu's speech put on the official Israeli government website by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

This is the entirety of what Netanyahu said with regard to the people taken hostage:
'We are all praying for the well-being of the wounded and all those who are being held hostage, I say to Hamas:you are responsible for their well-being. Israel will settle account with anyone who harms one hair on their heads.'

Is something missing here?

With regard to the civilian population living in Gaza this is the entirety of what he said:
'I say to the residents of Gaza: Leave now because we will operate forcefully everywhere'.

A warning then, advice, more ?

“The majority of Gaza’s frozen embryos have been destroyed
If you, or someone you love, has ever had fertility issues, you will know just how heavy an emotional toll they can take. IVF, in particular, is not easy. You have to inject yourself with hormones. Then you undergo anaesthesia and have an operation to retrieve the eggs. Then the embryos are made. Finally, you implant the embryos. It’s a long, expensive and involved process that can take a physical and emotional toll. At the end, you hope it’ll all be worth it. At the end, you hope there will be a baby.

For many families in Gaza, those hopes were permanently wiped out by one Israeli missile strike. In December, an Israeli shell, possibly provided by the US, hit Gaza City’s largest fertility clinic, the Al Basma IVF centre. The explosion, according to a Reuters piece that came out this week, “blasted the lids off five liquid nitrogen tanks stored in a corner of the embryology unit”. More than 4,000 embryos were destroyed, along with 1,000 more specimens of sperm and unfertilized eggs.

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One single strike. That’s all it took. One single strike and thousands of potential lives were wiped out. For at least half of the couples who were patients at the clinic, many of whom had saved up for years to afford treatments, those embryos were their last chance to get pregnant, Bahaeldeen Ghalayini, the obstetrician who established the clinic, told Reuters.

Why would Israel bomb a fertility center? The Israeli military’s press desk told Reuters that it would look into it. Judging by Israel’s record of looking into its own actions, you shouldn’t hold your breath waiting for answers. No doubt Israel will just say it received special intelligence that at least 25% of those embryos were going to grow up to be terrorists. Whatever the press desk says, if it bothers saying anything, it won’t make a difference to the Biden administration. Israeli leaders have made a litany of genocidal statements and the US government is still sending a never-ending supply of unconditional aid.”
Not a recent event but one I hadn’t heard of till the day. And it saddens me and sums up the IDF attitude towards the Palestinians. I find it sad beyond belief in a way I can’t find the words for…

He has told us that he is the greatest man in the world that his country is the greatest in the world thanks to him and he doesn't flinch when children are being killed in Gaza with weapons supplied by him. What a man!