Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

What a feeble attempt to twist my words ronib. I am using YOUR logic, not to say the Holocaust did not happen, but using your logic, it was not a Genocide.

I didn't know that about the tunnels. In that case, what is all the mystery? If the Israelis built them, they know where they are and logically, they know where the Hostages are.
Yes Annie

It’s the most remarkable experience to hear that the Jewish Holocaust didn’t happen. Quite truly amazing.

Is really quite amazing what lengths some will go to in order to deny that a genocide is taking place in Gaza or to argue that Netanyahu isn’t doing anything wrong.
Is a bit like watching someone knit water.

Everything that has happened since 7 October 2023 has been in retaliation for just one single terrible day. when 1000 Israelis were killed. As far as I know there have been little or no further attacks by hamas since that day but from that day up to now and counting, 70,000 Gazans are dead many of these children, and many more left with life changing injuries and many untreated amputations. As an occupying state which Israel is, has a legal responsibility for feeding and protecting the civilian population which they don’t.

While the attention of the world is on Gaza the West Bank is being attacked daily by Zionist settlers who violently force people from their land and kill many others at will, while Israeli soldiers look on then drag victims of assault off to prison. This is barely reported.
I suggest anyone who wants to learn more to watch No other Land. By Basel Ardra. It won an American Oscar for best film this year, but has not been shown anywhere in America. Now that is bizarre but says a lot about the politics. At least we can see it here, it’s a hard watch but worth it.
My view has always been that Israel wants all the land for themselves, and finally about the tunnels we keep hearing about, these were built by Israelis when they occupied Gaza 20 years ago. Not Hamas.

Then genocide 7th October 2023

But not all were killed, so by your very own logic, ronib, with which I do not agree, the Holocaust was not a Genocide.

I prefer not to kill any of the people.

You don't have to kill all the people for genocide to take place as some seem to believe.

Very few Jews remaining in Germany in 1950. The numbers are available on the internet.

Are you saying Oreo that those children brought the war on themselves?

ronib you are aware that you are comparing the Israeli government to aggressors like Germany in the Second World War?
Which is interesting.
As for the headcount of those dead, a genocide is also about the obvious intent of the aggressor, which is to eradicate a people using certain well recognised means, most of which the Israeli government have met.
And I was trying not to include dictators/ruthless regimes when talking about conflicts around the world but if you want to throw Netanyahu in the mix I imagine that you are right, he is in good company.

If that was true logic, ronib, that Gaza is not a Genocide, because there are survivors, then the Holocaust was not a Genocide either, as millions of Jews survived.

Have you really forgotten about the death chambers in Germany for the Jews? Babs03 What do you mean by this is not how other conflicts have panned out? The Biafran Genocide?

It may well be a case of simple semantics but if genocide is ongoing then how is it exactly that millions of people are still alive to be rehoused? For example

@Oreo we understand what a conflict is, there have been countless conflicts the world over, but none that required the complete destruction of all buildings - a scorched earth policy - and such high civilian deaths, nor so many international laws broken. Of course many aggressors in a war have committed war crimes but not gone so far as Israel, they have shocked and appalled many for such indiscriminate killing and weaponising of starvation and destroying hospitals, cutting off electric and clean water. This is not how other conflicts have panned out, especially one fought by a first world democracy which is presently fighting according to the rules of a rogue state rather than according to the Geneva convection.

It’s war on hamas and their followers, brought about by themselves.

Maremia

Another choice, a much better one than temporary tents, would be to stop the destruction of the buildings still standing and functional, and allow in the medical and food supplies that the Palestinians need.

You need to remember this is a conflict to kill or take prisoner the remaining hamas in Gaza City.
A lot of housing will have to come down in achieving that.
When it’s over any buildings still intact and functioning both in Gaza City and elsewhere can be used but tents will form the main housing, there’s no other choice.

The ugly reality is that so many ‘spokespersons’ for the Israeli government and army speak with American accents and even British ones! There seems to be endless land taken from Palestinians to distribute to these people - yet there is still talk of shoving Palestinians out of Gaza altogether.

Why has it taken so long for us all to condemn the genocide in Gaza perpetrated by the Israeli government and its forces?

Babs03

The world is waking up to the fact that there is no longer any possible justification for what the Israeli government are doing but only the US president can do something about it by cutting all funding and arms to Israel. And that would be Trump, who just wants to get his hands on some prime real estate in Gaza.

Unfortunately true. And on the worlds watch they’re being allowed to do it.

I wonder who will get to live in the Mar-a Gaza that is being planned?
Are Palestinians being allowed a normal life in the West Bank? How can we tell?

Another choice, a much better one than temporary tents, would be to stop the destruction of the buildings still standing and functional, and allow in the medical and food supplies that the Palestinians need.

Former Poet Laureate, Carol Ann Duffy has written a scathing new piece about the rich banqueting while children suffer and starve in war zones.
'Let the trumpets sound on the bombsite as the great and the good pick their way through, and a famished child peers through a bullet-hole in a wall.

Italian Adriatic port of Ravenna on Thursday blocked two trucks of arms heading to Israel, in protest about the Genocide in Gaza

Portugal has said it will recognise Palestine as a state.