Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

Nobody who supports the genocide has yet come back to say what their opinion is on the ‘no right to return’ rule in place for any Palestinians who manage to leave Gaza, just as it has been in place for decades for the Palestinian refugees in Jordan and Egypt etc.
How is this justifiable??

I would like the millions to be housed in a significant area of land, not squashed into a tiny area. I would like there to have been sufficient tents and adequate sanitation and food aid in place before they arrived. I would like there to have been medical facilities even at there most basic level and access to clean water.

Where and how would you like to see then housed Oreo?

Given a choice, if I was a Gazan then I would happily go else where no doubt that's what Israel's hoping for Oreo, so where would you happily go to?

God help the Palestinians Annie.

Living*

The Gazans are calling the camps Hellscape. There are far too many there for the meagre facilities provided. The tents are so close together that there is no privacy. Some don't have tents.
They were promised they would be treated humanely when they were herded into the camps but there is nothing humane about their life ving conditions.
Israel just want them out the way and have done little to sustain their lives.

Have what, a sensible answer?

And there we have it.

There isn’t another answer is there? It has to be tents for a while.

Yes, if they wish to stay in Gaza then what other scenario other than camps can there be?
Given a choice, if I was a Gazan then I would gladly go elsewhere.
Most won’t get the choice, so I reiterate, where else and how else can millions be housed?

If they stay in Gaza??!!

Where would you like millions to be housed? If they stay in Gaza it has to be tents.

Worse than hell? No that would be the fate of the hostages kept in tunnels and deliberately starved.

Oreo

They have to live in temporary accommodation which will be tents at first.Where else would they live? When this is finally over then Gaza will be rebuilt.Until then it has to be tented enclaves where charities can move in with aid, medical supplies and education.

The concentration camps are already severely overcrowded with very poor/non-existent sanitation. Respiratory diseases is already spreading and water borne disease like typhoid cholera and diarrhoea are almost certainly likely.

You make it sound like a little camping holiday, whereas in fact it will be worse than hell.

‘Israeli military together with security forces world wide are
puzzled ‘

23 months and they are puzzled ? God help the world

Oreo

Well it’s you and others on the thread that’s spreading this calumny so maybe stop.

If you think that this is the only place asking these questions, then you are very much mistaken.

Israeli journalists, Israeli military, together with security forces world wide are puzzled as to how an apparently absolutely world beating security force fell down so badly, particularly as it had been warned more than once.

They have to live in temporary accommodation which will be tents at first.Where else would they live? When this is finally over then Gaza will be rebuilt.Until then it has to be tented enclaves where charities can move in with aid, medical supplies and education.

Babs03

silverlining48

The female Israeli conscript ‘spotters’ warned their bosses over a period of weeks that something unusual was happening in Gaza. They were seemingly ignored despite Hamas actually putting their military style activities in the area online, for all to see.
Hamas attacked at dawn on the. 7 th but the first Israeli soldiers didn’t appear until lunch time. A gap of 7/8 hours? They could so easily have saved so many of those hostages.

Gaza is 24 miles by 5 miles and is completely surrounded by the Israeli army so the question which should be asked is ‘why did it take so long for help to arrive? Given that the Jews trapped in their safe rooms etc would all have been on the phone reporting what happened and asking for help, from dawn onwards.

This suspicious delay has never been satisfactorily explained by Israel, and the question should be answered. I hazard a guess that there will be no answer.

I watched the harrowing documentary of what happened on 7th Oct which featured the testimony of survivors. What it showed quite starkly was how survivors were desperately raising the alarm as soon as the first attacks happened but it took so long for help to arrive that in some cases Hamas had the impunity to make return visits to the scene of the crime and could be seen almost lounging around between attacks as if they knew they had time on their side.
There were stories of police and IDF stations almost deserted due to those who should have been there being given time off. And those stories are being told by survivors not the media.
At the very least what happened was a totally unforgivable lack of security in an area - close to the border with Gaza -where security should be tight as a drum. And of course the worst case scenario is that Netanyahu orchestrated this to keep himself out of jail, boost his poor ratings as a leader, and allow him and his far right cronies to commit genocide.
Is speculation of course until a full and independent investigation is done into the tragic events that day. But it is bizzare.

I think that this will certainly be investigated, once Netanyahu and his co-conspirators have gone from the scene.

This is going to last for decades.

Just repeating an important question which was zapped by the mods.

What is going to happen to the Palestinians in the concentration camps which Netanyahu has described euphemistically as “humanitarian camps”

Smileless2012

I hope that at some point there will be a full and independent investigation Babs but as for how transparent it will be, who knows.

If there is nothing in what some claim to be cruel conspiracy theories one would expect Israel's full co operation but so far, their so called 'investigations' into some of the incidence that have taken place don't seem to have materialised.

I agree the Israeli government are notoriously bad at investigations, most are done in-house with no questions or challenges to what the investigation allegedly finds.
But am hoping the families of those killed or taken hostage will drive an independent investigation. They must want and deserve the truth.
I certainly wouldn’t let it go if a loved one of mine was killed in what should have been a preventable attack or at the very least an attack that should have been stopped hours earlier.

I hope that at some point there will be a full and independent investigation Babs but as for how transparent it will be, who knows.

If there is nothing in what some claim to be cruel conspiracy theories one would expect Israel's full co operation but so far, their so called 'investigations' into some of the incidence that have taken place don't seem to have materialised.

silverlining48

The female Israeli conscript ‘spotters’ warned their bosses over a period of weeks that something unusual was happening in Gaza. They were seemingly ignored despite Hamas actually putting their military style activities in the area online, for all to see.
Hamas attacked at dawn on the. 7 th but the first Israeli soldiers didn’t appear until lunch time. A gap of 7/8 hours? They could so easily have saved so many of those hostages.

Gaza is 24 miles by 5 miles and is completely surrounded by the Israeli army so the question which should be asked is ‘why did it take so long for help to arrive? Given that the Jews trapped in their safe rooms etc would all have been on the phone reporting what happened and asking for help, from dawn onwards.

This suspicious delay has never been satisfactorily explained by Israel, and the question should be answered. I hazard a guess that there will be no answer.

I watched the harrowing documentary of what happened on 7th Oct which featured the testimony of survivors. What it showed quite starkly was how survivors were desperately raising the alarm as soon as the first attacks happened but it took so long for help to arrive that in some cases Hamas had the impunity to make return visits to the scene of the crime and could be seen almost lounging around between attacks as if they knew they had time on their side.
There were stories of police and IDF stations almost deserted due to those who should have been there being given time off. And those stories are being told by survivors not the media.
At the very least what happened was a totally unforgivable lack of security in an area - close to the border with Gaza -where security should be tight as a drum. And of course the worst case scenario is that Netanyahu orchestrated this to keep himself out of jail, boost his poor ratings as a leader, and allow him and his far right cronies to commit genocide.
Is speculation of course until a full and independent investigation is done into the tragic events that day. But it is bizzare.

The female Israeli conscript ‘spotters’ warned their bosses over a period of weeks that something unusual was happening in Gaza. They were seemingly ignored despite Hamas actually putting their military style activities in the area online, for all to see.
Hamas attacked at dawn on the. 7 th but the first Israeli soldiers didn’t appear until lunch time. A gap of 7/8 hours? They could so easily have saved so many of those hostages.

Gaza is 24 miles by 5 miles and is completely surrounded by the Israeli army so the question which should be asked is ‘why did it take so long for help to arrive? Given that the Jews trapped in their safe rooms etc would all have been on the phone reporting what happened and asking for help, from dawn onwards.

This suspicious delay has never been satisfactorily explained by Israel, and the question should be answered. I hazard a guess that there will be no answer.

A criteria of genocide is to remove medical care, food, clean water, and sanitation. Then hopefully disease and starvation will finish off those that survive the bombs.

The Palestinians are being crammed into 13% of Gaza now. Many of the other camps have been flattened. Two children were killed by a bomb on their tent a few days ago. BBC news.

It's been reported that the camps are so full that newcomers are sitting at the side of the road with no tents or enough food. Sanitation is very inadequate and people are falling ill.
People have been promised aid when they arrive but it's not happening.

TBH WWM I dread to think what will happen to them.

There's been no care for them so far so I can't see that they're going to be provided with adequate living conditions, food, medical provision and schools for the children .