Genocide ? shooting, bombing , starving, forced movement away from bombing taken 23 months , really?
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Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel
(792 Posts)4 of the 5 conditions are fulfilled.
UN report.
Whitewavemark2
Israel (not not just the Israeli government) is guilty of genocide
Definition
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Extremely ugly and repetitive sadistic cruel behaviour.
Well stated White Wave.
Why is it strange to be commentating on a situation that involves input from our own Government?
AGAA4
*obliterating that nest of vipers* by killing 65,000 Palestinians. This isn't defence and it's not to save the hostages. The IDF have said they have defeated Hamas.
This is to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians as said by Smotrich.
The land is being cleared for plans by Trump.
It quite obviously isn’t!
If killing any Palestinians were the objective then they needn’t trouble themselves to try and root out hamas.But that’s exactly what they are doing in Gaza City right now.That and getting the remaining hostages back.
It doesn’t stop at 65000 deaths - there are over 200000 injured according to the IDF. Then of course there is the consequences of lack of nutrition, and starvation.
Quote AGAA4 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:44:15
obliterating that nest of vipers by killing 65,000 Palestinians. This isn't defence and it's not to save the hostages. The IDF have said they have defeated Hamas.
This is to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians as said by Smotrich.
The land is being cleared for plans by Trump.
Hamas claimed the number of dead, still claims number of dead
obliterating that nest of vipers by killing 65,000 Palestinians. This isn't defence and it's not to save the hostages. The IDF have said they have defeated Hamas.
This is to cleanse Gaza of Palestinians as said by Smotrich.
The land is being cleared for plans by Trump.
Hamas Leaders and Officials:
Statements by Hamas officials make clear the terrorist organization’s commitment to destroying Israel and killing Jews and Israelis around the world.
Ismail Haniyeh in 2020: He explained that Hamas rejects ceasefire agreements by which, “Gaza would become Singapore,” preferring to remain at war with Israel until a Palestinian state is established from the River to the Sea: “We cannot, in exchange for money or projects, give up Palestine and our weapons. We will not give up the resistance... We will not recognize Israel, Palestine must stretch from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea.”
Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”
Hamas Political Bureau Chairman Saleh Al-Arouri in an August 2023 interview: He expressed Hamas’ desire for “total war” with Israel: “Therefore, we are convinced that if a total conflict begins, the airspace and seaports of this entity will be shut down, and they will not be able to live without electricity, water, and communications.”
Oreo
Menopauselbitch
No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.
Strange isn’t it?
I started a thread on other atrocities, didn’t get anywhere as much attention as Gaza…
Well said pen50 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Oreo
Menopauselbitch
No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.
Strange isn’t it?
Longer than 1948 ?
Genocide is being attemped in Israel by Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc. I support Israel's right to defend itself and if that means obliterating that nest of vipers in Gaza City, then so be it. Israel is not killing Palestinians in order to rid the world of Palestinians, it is trying to destroy Hamas' leadership, get back the remaining hostages, and stop anything like the events of 9 October 2023 ever happening again.
Menopauselbitch
No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.
Strange isn’t it?
Menopauselbitch
No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.
This needs a thread of it's own.
Quote Essexgirl145 Thu 18-Sept-25 15:03:00
Sorry Grantanow.......that excuse is past it's sell by date. It's evident now why the Germans did what they did. I have had a lot of nasty things done to me in my life which I would never want anyone else to experience and losing everything is one of them. I am with Palestine on this.
The Holocaust is rather more than a nasty thing
No one mentions Yemen or Somalia etc. much worse going on and for longer.
Sorry Grantanow.......that excuse is past it's sell by date. It's evident now why the Germans did what they did. I have had a lot of nasty things done to me in my life which I would never want anyone else to experience and losing everything is one of them. I am with Palestine on this.
Took them a long time to work that out, it's been obvious from the beginning what they were doing and the world looked on. I am ashamed, really ashamed of the human race.
There was no court of law declaring genocide of the Jews in Hitler's Germany, but still it happened.
Quote Maremia Thu 18-Sept-25 14:44:19
'Genocide denial is among the surest indicators of further genocidal massacres.'
Much more about genocide denial can be found in Wikipedia.
There has been no court of law declaring genocide in Gaza,
It's not true that the Nazi persecution of the Jews was unknown till the end of WW2. It was written about, Jewish refugees talked about it and the UK government considered bombing the death camps. It is true that some other groups were persecuted including gypsies and Catholics but in far smaller numbers than the Jews.
In my view the history does have a bearing on the present. We know that those who gave been abused in childhood are more likely to become abusers. If the world had treated the Jews better, especially after WW2, things might be different.
Churchill knew of the Holocaust, no country knew of the persecution of Jews in Europe ? no one noticed Jews being forced to wear ‘The Jewish Badge’ ?
During the Nazi era, German authorities reintroduced the Jewish badge as a key element in their plan to persecute and eventually to destroy the Jewish population of Europe. They used the badge not only to stigmatize and humiliate Jews but also to segregate them and to watch and control their movements. The badge also facilitated deportation.
Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels was the first to suggest a "general distinguishing mark" for German Jews in a memorandum in May 1938. Security Police chief Reinhard Heydrich reiterated the idea at a November 12, 1938, meeting convened by Herman Göring following Kristallnacht. In both cases no immediate action was taken.
'Genocide denial is among the surest indicators of further genocidal massacres.'
Much more about genocide denial can be found in Wikipedia.
So sad, when the victim becomes the abuser.
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