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Genocide is being committed in Gaza by Israel

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Sept-25 10:16:17

4 of the 5 conditions are fulfilled.

UN report.

Maremia Wed 17-Sept-25 15:36:23

Israel is losing the support it once had, and all because of Netanyahu's genocidal actions.
Perhaps when and if he goes, that's up to the Israelis, international relations might improve.

Maremia Wed 17-Sept-25 15:34:23

When it will come to the reckoning about the Genocide in Gaza, my opinion will not be asked, nor will yours. On this forum, we are free to share our views and beliefs. On the world stage decisions have already been made about naming and calling it out. It is now a fact.

Anniebach Wed 17-Sept-25 15:24:58

Quote Whitewavemark2 Wed 17-Sept-25 15:14:44
AGAA4
Israel is in more danger now than ever before.
Yes, and that is what many Israeli journalists are indicating, in fact given his “super Sparta” comment so clearly does Netanyahu

You both agree Israel was in danger before the war ,

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 15:21:51

Japan sides with the USA and refuses to acknowledge a Palestinian state for the time being.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 17-Sept-25 15:14:44

AGAA4

Israel is in more danger now than ever before.

Yes, and that is what many Israeli journalists are indicating, in fact given his “super Sparta” comment so clearly does Netanyahu

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 13:53:09

I don’t think that is the mood in Israel.

AGAA4 Wed 17-Sept-25 13:52:30

Israel is in more danger now than ever before.

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 13:44:32

Its own safety will take precedence over an imaginary world stage.

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 13:42:29

Israel has yet to demolish a huge network of underground tunnels and to remove Hamas in its entirety from Gaza. Not done yet.

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 13:41:01

I might add, it has won the war or whatever you call this tragedy, but lost its place on the world stage.

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 13:38:44

ronib

No - Israel isn’t going to capitulate.

It doesn’t need to it has already won the war - have you seen Gaza lately, from space it just looks like a dry scar.

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 13:36:05

No - Israel isn’t going to capitulate.

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 13:31:31

AGAA4

Qatar is hosting an emergency summit over the Israel attacks on Doha.

I bet it is. I’d be hopping mad if the US asked my country to host Hamas in order to broker a ceasefire/peace deal - and the Israeli government have always known about this - then they were bombed for their trouble.
Arab nations are now wondering how much they can trust the US to protect them against Israel - not vice versa I might add - in return for their cooperation in the region. With China and Russia in the wings looking to make inroads in the ME by offering Arab countries their allegiance I imagine this could become a big worry very soon unless Trump wakes up to the fact that he can’t sacrifice Arab allies and if he does so the whole geopolitical landscape will change irrevocably, with Israel exposed to far more insecurity than it has ever known.

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 13:25:28

I think Qatar is looking to move its money out of the USA?
I wish I could believe that Babs03. What a complicated web is being spun. From my perspective, I find it difficult to credit Qatar with peace keeping.

AGAA4 Wed 17-Sept-25 13:17:38

Qatar is hosting an emergency summit over the Israel attacks on Doha.

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 13:13:25

ronib

A terrorist- I wish it was only one. Babs03 Qatar is housing Hamas leaders in luxury hotels and giving a lot of financial support to the organization. It’s fighting a proxy war with Israel and Israel has every intention of resisting. Why on earth wouldn’t it?

The US wanted Qatar to host Hamas in order to broker a possible ceasefire or peace deal. That is why Trump now has egg on his face over this.

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 13:03:01

A terrorist- I wish it was only one. Babs03 Qatar is housing Hamas leaders in luxury hotels and giving a lot of financial support to the organization. It’s fighting a proxy war with Israel and Israel has every intention of resisting. Why on earth wouldn’t it?

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 12:52:39

Of course none of the above will stop Israel bombing another country.

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 12:50:49

ronib

Is NATO that immoral that it’s housing Hamas? Why else would Netanyahu attack?

Israel has no right to attack any other sovereign country even if intelligence indicates that Hamas could be in that country. God help us if it becomes okay to just bomb someone else’s country on the intelligence that terrorists could be hiding there.
Unless a sovereign country attacks Israel there is no way that Israel can hit back.
If this sets a precedent then any country could be bombed by other countries on the assumption that a terrorist is hiding there.
Very dangerous reasoning here.

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 12:06:33

Is NATO that immoral that it’s housing Hamas? Why else would Netanyahu attack?

ronib Wed 17-Sept-25 12:05:04

When Trump became president, his big announcement was that the world needs to stop relying on America and can sort itself out. America first. What was said in private, we shall never know. Hardly a huge endorsement by Trump?

AGAA4 Wed 17-Sept-25 12:02:50

Would he dare attack a NATO country? It does seem that he is literally getting away with murder so maybe he would.

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 11:58:38

When Trump became president Netanyahu must have done a victory dance to the soundtrack ‘ain’t no stopping us now’.

Babs03 Wed 17-Sept-25 11:56:49

AGAA4

Netanyahu hasn't ruled out further strikes on Hamas leaders abroad.
Wonder what country he will bomb next.

Well, he presently has impunity and total immunity from the usual international laws, so he can take his pick.

AGAA4 Wed 17-Sept-25 11:54:24

Netanyahu hasn't ruled out further strikes on Hamas leaders abroad.
Wonder what country he will bomb next.