Why don’t we use the military re stop the boats?

Primrose How strange, cleaning of the RNLI boats is done by the crew, yes they are volunteers but cleaning and checking equipment is part of the function. and not usually done by volunteers who support the charity in other ways "Shore leave" is normally the time crew members are not available for duty. I'm sad that someone would stop volunteering because she didn't approve of the people who's lives are being saved, it's a good job the RNLI crew members don't feel like this and they don't seem to.

So she didn't believe in their motto "saving lives at sea". Did she want something like "savings certain approved lives at sea"

Luckygirl3

Primrose53

Well said Allira 👏

The pro migrants always resort to using language that they hope will irritate or upset those who hold different views.

It is meaningless nastiness.

I don't think anyone on here is pro illegal immigration. I think everyone is tired of the evil gang leaders screwing money out of people with promises if a new life and risking their lives in the process.
But a lot of us are pro humanity in the midst of this chaotic situation. And pro law.
It is a complex situation that needs carefully thought through solutions that meet the demands of both humanity and the law. There is not going to be a quick or simple answer, but for sure we must not go down a route where anyone, RNLI or navy, stand by while people drown.

No we don’t but volunteers like my friend are leaving. She was a very dedicated volunteer for the RNLI (shore crew). When the lifeboat came back she and others cleaned it and checked everything was perfect for the next shout.

She got so fed up with people wandering past and saying they were not donating to the RNLI any more because they are just a migrant taxi service that she decided to leave as she actually felt they were correct. She also raised thousands of pounds for them running marathons, organising huge raffles and coffee mornings.

GrannyGravy13

mokryna

ID cards for all UK résidences, would help landlords and employers as well as the police, as done in Europe. I always have mine on me.
Open UK offices in Gibraltar for people to register their applications to live in England, to stop them going to the English Channel.

Gibraltar is so tiny, why should it have our/Europe's problem?

It also has enough problems of its own with the Spanish Border Force.

I agree.

Not Gibraltar's problem.

GrannyGravy13

Aveline

Current job application forms require national insurance numbers and for many jobs a section saying they have the right to be here. Sometimes passport numbers and photos are required. Illegal migrants can only be working in black market jobs.

Food delivery drivers

Turkish barbers

Car washes

Nail bars

Prostitution

You forgot the cannabis farms 😂

mokryna

ID cards for all UK résidences, would help landlords and employers as well as the police, as done in Europe. I always have mine on me.
Open UK offices in Gibraltar for people to register their applications to live in England, to stop them going to the English Channel.

Gibraltar is so tiny, why should it have our/Europe's problem?

It also has enough problems of its own with the Spanish Border Force.

growstuff

Include some restaurants and take aways in that list.

My town has had a take away and a very good restaurant closed down because all the staff were deported.

Cleaners, working for firms contracted to big supermarkets etc.

growstuff

Your idea about stopping the sale of boats to criminals is a complete non-starter. How exactly could you stop any sale?

The sale and storage of dinghies was rife in Germany.

Maybe you missed this:

www.infomigrants.net/en/post/65853/germany-to-allow-police-to-confiscate-small-boats-in-starmer-migrant-pact

ID cards for all UK résidences, would help landlords and employers as well as the police, as done in Europe. I always have mine on me.
Open UK offices in Gibraltar for people to register their applications to live in England, to stop them going to the English Channel.

growstuff

Include some restaurants and take aways in that list.

My town has had a take away and a very good restaurant closed down because all the staff were deported.

You are correct, we have had a couple (Turkish and Indian (Bangladesh) )hit with fines for illegal workers.

Include some restaurants and take aways in that list.

My town has had a take away and a very good restaurant closed down because all the staff were deported.

GrannyGravy13

Aveline

Current job application forms require national insurance numbers and for many jobs a section saying they have the right to be here. Sometimes passport numbers and photos are required. Illegal migrants can only be working in black market jobs.

Food delivery drivers

Turkish barbers

Car washes

Nail bars

Prostitution

Indeed! Apart from the last one, it would be too difficult to raid.

Indeed, that's true.

If there more investment in law enforcement, it wouldn't be that difficult to catch those working illegally. It could be part of a raft of measures to reduce the pull factor of the UK.

Aveline

Current job application forms require national insurance numbers and for many jobs a section saying they have the right to be here. Sometimes passport numbers and photos are required. Illegal migrants can only be working in black market jobs.

Food delivery drivers

Turkish barbers

Car washes

Nail bars

Prostitution

Current job application forms require national insurance numbers and for many jobs a section saying they have the right to be here. Sometimes passport numbers and photos are required. Illegal migrants can only be working in black market jobs.

GrannyGravy13

Think it’s all over escaped 🇬🇧🏉

😆

Some of the suggestions/ ideas on here are bordering on Dads Army.

"We're all doomed!"

But we smashed it in the rugby!

Think it’s all over escaped 🇬🇧🏉

fancythat

^You realise that some are legally allowed to stay once their claim is verified. How would you know how they arrived,^

You wouldnt.

Which is a big concern, Now that you have mentioned that.

Whoever employed that person to take care of you could know. Anyone who applied for and was granted the right to live here legally would have an official letter confirming this.

escaped

Oooh dear, France looking good now as play goes on. Certainly getting possession. We're surviving. Tense. 🏉
Half time.

I have everything crossed 🇬🇧

If Posters were using 'language' to upset other Posters, is that not usually deleted?

Oooh dear, France looking good now as play goes on. Certainly getting possession. We're surviving. Tense. 🏉
Half time.

Oh, thanks!

I don't know why but it has always niggled me, wondering what happened to them.

Allira

petra

69 inflatables have been seized this year on the Turkish/ Bulgaria border this year
Once upon a time this border was as weak as a fag paper but obviously things have changed.

What happens to all these boats?
Do they get recycled or go into landfill? 😲

Recycled.
The outboards are reconditioned ( if necessary) then sold on at auctions held by the customs.
I’ve been to a few of these myself. Same as the stolen property auctions.

Primrose53

Well said Allira 👏

The pro migrants always resort to using language that they hope will irritate or upset those who hold different views.

It is meaningless nastiness.

I don't think anyone on here is pro illegal immigration. I think everyone is tired of the evil gang leaders screwing money out of people with promises if a new life and risking their lives in the process.
But a lot of us are pro humanity in the midst of this chaotic situation. And pro law.
It is a complex situation that needs carefully thought through solutions that meet the demands of both humanity and the law. There is not going to be a quick or simple answer, but for sure we must not go down a route where anyone, RNLI or navy, stand by while people drown.