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ID cards at long last

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vegansrock Thu 25-Sept-25 19:13:00

At long last a hint towards modernisation with the introduction of digital ID cards. Having lived in countries which had ID cards it was all seen as normal and was useful in many ways - health care, benefits, employment, healthcare, education etc. I guess the tinfoil hat brigade will object but I’m not among them.

growstuff Fri 26-Sept-25 00:15:33

Bukkie

My 81 year old Mum doesn't have or has ever had a mobile phone. She has never been on a computer in her life and doesn't have an email address.

In that case, she would have to have a physical card.

friendlygingercat Thu 25-Sept-25 23:51:53

I would be happy to sign up for one.

Im surprised Farage is against these. He wants to disenfranchise some groups in the population and turn them into mere "guest workers" who can be deported at will. Digitital ID cards could be used to effectively deny resources to certian groups and place them further back in the queue behind British citizens. Access to social housing, benefits, free health provision and state education come to mind. In effect a new form of aparthied.

Mt61 Thu 25-Sept-25 23:38:35

How is that going to go with these people landing on the beaches- no paper work. It won’t stop them giving false information, will it. I think they need to be first in line to be sorted out.
Most brits already have pass ports & a driver’s license.

henetha Thu 25-Sept-25 23:17:03

A common sense move at last. Long overdue.
Probably too late for me though.
But I clearly remember my last one, in ww2.

SueDonim Thu 25-Sept-25 23:15:09

I’ve just read that initially, it’ll be for working age people only. Part of an effort to clamp down on black economy jobs.

Mt61 Thu 25-Sept-25 23:11:54

escaped

I would have no problem with a card and all that it entails. I'm part of a government survey and, along with 10s of 1000s of others, have handed over personal details, medical information, DNA, blood samples, etc. for nearly 70 years. It hasn't bothered me or made any difference to my life.
I think it will be some time before it's all set up.

Why would you give your DNA over, if you don’t have to?

Mt61 Thu 25-Sept-25 23:10:04

Who are we supposed to show these cards to? Half the time I don’t take my phone out with me. I don’t carry my passport, or drivers id. All safely put away. I refuse to carry anything that has all my personal details on it, in case I loose it.

escaped Thu 25-Sept-25 23:05:30

I would have no problem with a card and all that it entails. I'm part of a government survey and, along with 10s of 1000s of others, have handed over personal details, medical information, DNA, blood samples, etc. for nearly 70 years. It hasn't bothered me or made any difference to my life.
I think it will be some time before it's all set up.

Bukkie Thu 25-Sept-25 23:02:27

My 81 year old Mum doesn't have or has ever had a mobile phone. She has never been on a computer in her life and doesn't have an email address.

Charleygirl5 Thu 25-Sept-25 22:39:32

I would be happy to carry an ID card, but I am 82. I doubt if I will be around.

Mt61 Thu 25-Sept-25 22:37:42

If it’s free I’ll have one, but if I’ve to pay they can shove it.

growstuff Thu 25-Sept-25 21:55:51

Babs03

I heard they would be actual cards, not on a smartphone. Which is good because I have my senior rail card on my phone and am always struggling to get it up on the screen.

Does anybody actually I know?

I agree with you by the way. I couldn't get my Lidl+ card to work on my phone today. A very nice cashier helped me sort it. Somehow I'd managed to turn my wifi off confused.

growstuff Thu 25-Sept-25 21:53:15

twiglet77

As a retired home-owner I won’t be applying for jobs, credit, nor renting property. The NHS, DVLA, HMRC, councils, banks and pension providers already have more information about me than they could possibly need.

But you will be eligible to vote and it could make your life easier if the information were all co-ordinated and accessible with one app/card.

growstuff Thu 25-Sept-25 21:51:29

Apologies, I've just been reading about it and apparently the idea is for a specifically digital card. However, there is a significant number of people who don't have smartphones, so there has to be an alternative. The idea is only in the planning stages, so there's time for non-smartphone holders to have their say. I'm sure people like Martin Lewis will have something to say.

Granmarderby10 None of us can answer those questions yet because it hasn't even got to the bill stage yet.

twiglet77 Thu 25-Sept-25 21:49:26

As a retired home-owner I won’t be applying for jobs, credit, nor renting property. The NHS, DVLA, HMRC, councils, banks and pension providers already have more information about me than they could possibly need.

Babs03 Thu 25-Sept-25 21:48:05

I heard they would be actual cards, not on a smartphone. Which is good because I have my senior rail card on my phone and am always struggling to get it up on the screen.

Smintie Thu 25-Sept-25 21:46:58

I am very pleased that this is finally being resolved.

Granmarderby10 Thu 25-Sept-25 21:46:33

Will the ID mean that those many immigrants who have been living here under the radar illegally for a long time will have cause to worry?
It will certainly make buying certain products online simpler if like me you don’t drive and don’t have a passport. Voting also.
Will it be just for adults?

growstuff Thu 25-Sept-25 21:43:54

keepingquiet

Don't see a problem with them- but why only on smart phones?

Part of a growing trend where everything is on a phone- this worries me more.

Unless I've missed something, it isn't just smartphones. AFAIK that was just mentioned to scare people.

keepingquiet Thu 25-Sept-25 21:39:28

Don't see a problem with them- but why only on smart phones?

Part of a growing trend where everything is on a phone- this worries me more.

SueDonim Thu 25-Sept-25 21:39:10

I’ve done a 180 degree turn on ID cards. I used to be against them but now that every man and his dog seems to hold information about me, just having one card to cover the lot seems useful.

Medical matters are something that will need to be handled carefully, of course. Being able to produce a card/phone app (I assume both will be offered initially) would be so much better than having to show passports/notified documents/proof of Council Tax payments etc to prove who you are to banks and so on.

LovesBach Thu 25-Sept-25 21:37:50

I heard a politician on the radio saying she would be happier if I.D. cards were voluntary. Unfortunately I missed the beginning of the item so I don't know who she was, but I wonder how useful she thinks a voluntary card would be, and who might refuse to have one....

Babs03 Thu 25-Sept-25 21:36:13

Am all for ID cards, most European countries have had them for ages.

growstuff Thu 25-Sept-25 21:27:35

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I had to laugh. My cousin just messaged me “so rubber boats of unknowns turn up on the shores and as a taxpayer suddenly I'm the problem? Foxtrot Oscar.”

I assume your cousin realises that ID cards will make it more difficult for "unknowns" to stay under the radar.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 25-Sept-25 21:14:58

I had to laugh. My cousin just messaged me “so rubber boats of unknowns turn up on the shores and as a taxpayer suddenly I'm the problem? Foxtrot Oscar.”