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Move over Fergie, Andrew's turn again.

(41 Posts)
Sarnia Fri 26-Sept-25 22:13:28

Prince Andrew's name appears on the flight manifest for Epstein's Lolita Express according to further documents released today.
Come on King Charles, sort this out.

Iam64 Sat 27-Sept-25 12:05:36

Petra, bill clinton was it seems a frequent flier . Trump visited but I think they had a fall out

merlotgran Sat 27-Sept-25 12:05:55

StripeyGran

*Handsome, rich and famous. No wonder girls were willing to prostitute themselves in order to be part of his life*

What?

Victim blaming of the worst kind. 😮

Galaxy Sat 27-Sept-25 12:06:49

Clinton's behaviour in office was in my view predatory.

ferry23 Sat 27-Sept-25 12:07:16

As has been said upthread, if Prince Andrew and Elon Musk are clearly on the list, I shudder to think of the names that have been redacted.

Redacted because of security risks or because of friends in high places?

Ladyleftfieldlover Sat 27-Sept-25 12:45:41

Both.

Casdon Sat 27-Sept-25 17:28:54

My guess is the names were redacted because they were underage girls?

OldFrill Sat 27-Sept-25 18:08:16

Being on the flight manifest doesn't indicate anything other than the person was on a flight (the world already knew Prince Andrew had flown on Epstein's plane prior to the latest release of fight manifests). The plane (s) flew all over the he world. There's no confirmation Musk went to the island.

Labradora Sat 27-Sept-25 18:26:50

GrannyGravy13

He was on a plane owned by Epstein, so were many other far more influential figures.

I am far more interested in the redacted names.

Me too.

Iam64 Sat 27-Sept-25 18:45:25

merlotgran

StripeyGran

Handsome, rich and famous. No wonder girls were willing to prostitute themselves in order to be part of his life

What?

Victim blaming of the worst kind. 😮

Quite shocking StripeyGran.

Iam64 Sat 27-Sept-25 18:49:16

OldFrill

Being on the flight manifest doesn't indicate anything other than the person was on a flight (the world already knew Prince Andrew had flown on Epstein's plane prior to the latest release of fight manifests). The plane (s) flew all over the he world. There's no confirmation Musk went to the island.

Being on the manifest indicates either the individual had no idea Epstein was a man obsessed with having sex with beautiful, fragile, damaged (a word I apologise for but hope the majority will understand its use) young, often under age girls, or they shared his obsession with as much sex as possible with no strings or come back

Kamiso Sat 27-Sept-25 18:57:45

I was surprised to hear that Tom Hanks was on a list.

Once the full details are known it will be interesting to see how many repeat travelers appear!

Hopefully anyone named publicly will expose those who have had their names redacted.

The matter won’t end until the truth is fully exposed and out in the open.

OldFrill Sat 27-Sept-25 19:14:18

If the redacted names are of the victims of Epstein's abuse it's maybe more likely that others named on those flights were aware of Epstein's sexual predilections. That's why the redacted names are of interest.

Casdon Sat 27-Sept-25 19:17:06

OldFrill

If the redacted names are of the victims of Epstein's abuse it's maybe more likely that others named on those flights were aware of Epstein's sexual predilections. That's why the redacted names are of interest.

I don’t think the names should be released if they are victims. It would be better if they said that was the case with no names, or name them if they were somebody else.

Galaxy Sat 27-Sept-25 20:03:15

I agree. Absolutely not unless they give consent.

Iam64 Sat 27-Sept-25 20:22:46

Yes, the victims names should be confidential
I do hope Tom Hanks isn’t found culpable. I know Hollywood life isn’t ‘normal ‘, but I want to continue to enjoy Tom Hanks

I find it very hard to believe anyone couldn’t see what Epstein’s proclivities were