Manchester Synagogue Attack

I am delighted with your verdict that folk no longer conflate the two completely separate issues, which is why I asked earlier, but did not get, for clarification on a post, not dobbing anyone in, that actually still exists on this thread.
I shall move on, and not expect ever to read such a 'confusion' on these posts.
Thank you for your re-assurance.
Now let's get back to practical suggestion for helping.
How many have we had so far?

That was a fairly lovely example of sorting out a misunderstanding.

No problem, Anniebach. Sorry, I jumped to the wrong conclusion and I should have known better! Especially as it’s you, and we are usually on the same wavelength.

Quote Crossstitchfan Sun 05-Oct-25 11:17:05
Anniebach
Post from Oreo has been criticised for responding with her distress of the murders, she didn’t speak of any posters
I know! And I didn’t imply she did!

So sorry, i wasn’t speaking of your post

Thanks, we will.

Oreo,
Sorry that you, and others in your position, have to go through this. It makes me (and I’m sure, others), feel so helpless. Keep safe.

I have to work this evening and DP is insisting on dropping me there in his van, I usually cycle but this week it may pay to be extra cautious.We aren’t obviously Jewish but it’s known amongst our neighbours and it’s not exactly Park Lane where we live.You just don’t know what’s being stirred up at the minute.

A big thank you to all who have said very kind and supportive things to me both on this thread and by pms, I can tell you it’s really appreciated and I know other Jewish posters feel the same.😃

Anniebach

Post from Oreo has been criticised for responding with her distress of the murders, she didn’t speak of any posters

I know! And I didn’t imply she did!

Post from Oreo has been criticised for responding with her distress of the murders, she didn’t speak of any posters

Whenever a vile act is reported and remarked on here on Gransnet, it will only be minutes before there are people responding. Quite right too, but why is it that, again within minutes, posters will start arguing and insulting other posters?Why not stick to the issue and let people give their opinions without the resulting nastiness? It somehow dilutes the seriousness of the issue.

Thanks fgt.
The response seems to have learned quite a lot of lessons for which I am grateful.

I totally agree GG13 I've listened to a number of different speakers from different religions and community groups who have all stressed community cohesion and the need to come together but it seems to fall on deaf ears. The comments by the Rabbi yesterday on the 5.00pm news did talk about Palestine, I won't attempt to paraphrase what she said but it was balanced, humanitarian and worth listening to.

Latest:
Laurence Taylor, GMP’s head of counter-terrorism policing, said: “At this stage, we believe al-Shamie may have been influenced by extreme Islamist ideology. Establishing the full circumstances of the attack is likely to take some time.

“We have now arrested three further people, one man and two women, aged between 18 and mid-40s. This brings the number of people in custody arrested on suspicion of commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism to six.

“We will be seeking warrants of further detention for all six individuals, and will seek to issue an update on this later.

“I would like to once again stress that our investigation is still in its early stages. I know there is significant public interest in this case, and we will seek to provide timely updates on our progress where possible.

“We would ask people to refrain from speculation or sharing unverified information as that could potentially cause unnecessary delays in our inquiries and additional upset for all those impacted by these horrific events.”

I am rather saddened that what should be a thread about the heinous attack on a Synagogue has plunged the depths of whataboutery

The Jewish community in the U.K. is hurting and frightened.

There are numerous threads regarding Islam and Islamophobia and radicalism in that religion…

And that isn't a country I want to live in. Not facing up to this issue isn't going to help.

There was a police officer stationed all night on Thursday night in the reception area of my mum’s (88) residential care home, 5 minutes from where the attack took place, just in case. It’s filled with predominantly Jewish residents.

This is the reality we Jews are living with in Britain now. No wonder temperatures are high.

Now that I’ve come back on the thread I might as well post how impressed I was with the crowd at the Man United football match.

I didn’t watch the clip because I was afraid that there would be shouting and protest during the minutes silence. Not a sound. Not even a cough.

Such respect.

Our security services are stretched to the limit so unfortunately some of those radicalised people will escape the net.
I am concerned that Jewish people are feeling they have to leave the UK as they are no longer safe here. I would feel the same if my children were being spat at or having things thrown at them as they walk to school. There are also worse dangers of course as the attack a few days ago showed.

So it does, StripeyGran.

The gym is delightful. where else would I meet B from the Yoruba tribe of Nigeria, or S, from Eritrea (she's a cleaner I teach a bit of yoga too), or the lady from Somalia - with a mask: we talked about our families. Open hearts and minds, folks, until the violence starts, and then act swiftly and appropriately.

I have to go now - not just walking away.

I think “ Ihaven’t seen it” is a dismissive response.

As Nelson sad “I see no ships.” It’s convenient to have a blind eye.

Oreo

Passing different nationalities in shops or races or religions is no indicator.

Yes but it gives us a little flicker of hope and lightens our days.

I disagree profoundly, Oreo, for its in the everyday contact - for people just dont "pass" - we/they actually engage with each other

My hairdresser at the gym is a Muslim: we've often discussed religion itself.

Thats why we have the Secret Service and some divisions of the police, Oreo.

Passing different nationalities in shops or races or religions is no indicator.