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Starmer Off to Egypt.........

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windmill1 Sat 11-Oct-25 23:39:54

........to throw in his ten pence worth about Gaza and fulfil his allotted role as fawning acolyte to President Trump in return for being allowed to sit at the Big Table.

Might be nice if Sir Keir could stay in the UK long enough to get to grips with problems on the home front. He always seems to be flitting abroad!

LlynP Mon 13-Oct-25 04:43:48

Another thread started for the sole purpose of having a go at Starmer/Labour. Throw it out there then don't bother to follow it on. So tedious.

Allsorts Mon 13-Oct-25 07:57:26

Its about time he looked at the problems we have before it becomes a third world country,

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:21:56

Tony Blair is attending, high time he retired to the country and left the serious stuff to the grown ups.

Iam64 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:42:12

We are no where near becoming a third world country. What nonsense

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:42:49

Whilst the world leaders are holding a high profile conference in Egypt, the engine and real work is beginning to ramp up and there is a conference being hosted by Britain and taking place just up the road from my daughter😊 in the governments estate (think Jacobean rather pleasant country house used for all sorts of government work in posh surroundings with a posh restaurant) in the Sussex countryside. The UN - world food programme and Norwegian Refugee Council are among attendees and of course the real movers and shifters - the civil servants. The first conference is due to last 3 days. Expect loads of blacked out Mercedes. 😄

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:50:14

Bridget Phillipson announced on the Laura Kuensberg show yesterday that the UK played an integral role in the peace talks this has been dismissed by several members of the Israeli Parliament along with the Israel’s Ambassador to the U.K.

Their exact words were that she was delusional

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:51:13

I am really surprised to read that Blair has won the approval of the PA - in my view that was a real stumbling block. Now with luck he has the support of the entire Middle East, which hopefully bodes well for the reconstruction period.

Sarnia Mon 13-Oct-25 08:53:30

GrannyGravy13

Tony Blair is attending, high time he retired to the country and left the serious stuff to the grown ups.

He is being suggested as a key member of the Peace Board. I don't think he has ever had a sleepless night over dragging our country into an illegal war. Blair will think he deserves his place with the grown ups.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:53:40

Whitewavemark2

I am really surprised to read that Blair has won the approval of the PA - in my view that was a real stumbling block. Now with luck he has the support of the entire Middle East, which hopefully bodes well for the reconstruction period.

I am pleased you and others have faith in Tony Blair. The only thing he is interested in is self grandiosity

I wouldn’t trust him to run a bath.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:53:45

GrannyGravy13

Bridget Phillipson announced on the Laura Kuensberg show yesterday that the UK played an integral role in the peace talks this has been dismissed by several members of the Israeli Parliament along with the Israel’s Ambassador to the U.K.

Their exact words were that she was delusional

One must not take an awful lot of the rhetoric emanating from Netanyahus government as your guideline😊.

The limos are gliding past as we speak😊

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:57:42

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

I am really surprised to read that Blair has won the approval of the PA - in my view that was a real stumbling block. Now with luck he has the support of the entire Middle East, which hopefully bodes well for the reconstruction period.

I am pleased you and others have faith in Tony Blair. The only thing he is interested in is self grandiosity

I wouldn’t trust him to run a bath.

It matters not a jot what I think about Blair, (and yes Iraq was an unforgivable error) but it matters 100% what the Middle Eastern states think about him, and he has been working with them for over a decade, so certainly has their trust and respect. This plan did not appear just over the past few weeks - it has been a couple of years in the planning, with Blair being the go-between the USA and the Middle East.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 13-Oct-25 08:58:12

I am watching the TV Whitewavemark2

How does limousines gliding past counteract calling a U.K. government minister delusional ?

I am immensely relieved to see the remaining hostages freed, I hope they get the physiological and medical support they require in the coming weeks, months and years.

ronib Mon 13-Oct-25 08:58:51

Likewise it pays to double check every statement made by Bridget Phillipson. Boy can she spin it.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:03:46

GrannyGravy13

I am watching the TV Whitewavemark2

How does limousines gliding past counteract calling a U.K. government minister delusional ?

I am immensely relieved to see the remaining hostages freed, I hope they get the physiological and medical support they require in the coming weeks, months and years.

It doesn’t, but it does show that the U.K. is a fully signed up participant in the peace process. I would tend to believe our government over a war mongering liar any day of the week.

ronib Mon 13-Oct-25 09:06:29

Iran needs to be a fully signed up participant in the so called peace process and it refused to attend. To my knowledge the UK wasn’t fighting in Gaza?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:10:30

I haven’t had the television on - I don’t in the mornings, but so utterly relieved to hear that the hostages are beginning to be released. I simply cant imagine how their nearest and dearest are feeling. Bursting I would think😊.

NotSpaghetti Mon 13-Oct-25 09:15:53

I notice lots of doctors have been excluded from the list of Palestinians to be released.

How ridiculous.

windmill1 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:19:50

I think, and know, that the much-maligned Jeremy Corbyn would re-set the Labour Party's moral compass.

Well, you did ask......

ronib Mon 13-Oct-25 09:25:49

I notice only one female hostage is on the list.
I notice that Hamas can’t find all the 28 dead.

Casdon Mon 13-Oct-25 09:28:46

NotSpaghetti

I notice lots of doctors have been excluded from the list of Palestinians to be released.

How ridiculous.

I wonder why that is, they will be desperately needed in Gaza, even without permanent hospitals and clinics to work from. I hope the humanitarian aid will include field hospital facilities being provided.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 13-Oct-25 09:31:30

Israel has also been refusing doctors from many countries entry to work in Gaza.

I am hoping that very soon this wrong will soon be righted when the new interim government takes control. Israel won’t - I hope any longer be the occupying force.

ronib Mon 13-Oct-25 09:35:25

Two Palestinian doctors not being released are thought to be Hamas operatives. Considering that hospitals in Gaza had a secondary use as a base for Hamas, Israel is acting correctly.

Maremia Mon 13-Oct-25 09:39:38

Bear in mind that Huckabee. who is said to have used the word 'delusional', is the husband of Sarah Huckabee, Trumps press secretary during his first term, who spouted Trump's fake news daily from her podium.
Witcoff, who has actually been involved with the current negotiations, claims otherwise.
Who to believe?

ronib Mon 13-Oct-25 09:42:15

Neither. Just listen to the words tripping off Phillipson’s lips and make up your own mind. Maremia

Maremia Mon 13-Oct-25 09:48:31

'America's envoy to the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, insisted Britain had played a KEY PART in securing Gaza peace deal, contradicting the US Ambassador to Israel.'

You can read more about this in Sky News., and other media outlets.