Maccabi Tel Aviv football club banned

Iam64

I agree it has the potential to be a risk to people and police officers.
Suggesting that’s all down to one set of fans in the current context seems wrong.

But those fans can be a catalyst can’t they. Imo people’s safety should come first.

I agree it has the potential to be a risk to people and police officers.
Suggesting that’s all down to one set of fans in the current context seems wrong.

History shows that football matches can go badly wrong. The Hillsborough disaster caused the death of 97 Liverpool fans through inadequate policing.
I think every precaution should be taken and if it means banning certain clubs so be it.

Exactly Rosie. Not just 'vandalism'.
Really serious consequences. All must be considered.

That is a good point NotSpaghetti and I agree.

I wish people would give a thought to the residents in that area and their and their children's right to safety.

This is just a football match after all and has provoked too much concern for some out of control fans over residents of that area

Maccabi fans have a track record of violence and damage to property in the neighbourhood.
As Aston villa ground is surrounded by houses I can understand why they don't want trouble to erupt there as it has in other countries where Maccabi fans have been.

Iam64

I’m relieved the decision is being reviewed
I understand the con erns about the ability of the police to protect the public.
If we can’t police a football match without banning one side, our policing needs examining

I’m very concerned about the ProPalestine anti Isreali themes

The biggest concern is the Maccabi fans, who have shown themselves to be racist and violent. They deliberately provoke the opponents. The residents of Birmingham, West Midlands Police and Aston Villa shouldn't have to put up that.

But why should Villa have to change its match location? The Home team is always considered to have a significant advantage over the visiting team.

But it does give off a bad look.
So some sort of alteration to the fixture may be needed.

It seems to me, that it is all part of a bigger problem.
And it isnt necessarily antisemitism. By some anyway.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c203z1d0yjwo

I’m relieved the decision is being reviewed
I understand the con erns about the ability of the police to protect the public.
If we can’t police a football match without banning one side, our policing needs examining

I’m very concerned about the ProPalestine anti Isreali themes

growstuff

Allira

Has anyone on here actually been to a football match at League level?

Yes.

Yes many
Also many premier league

Maremia

So, being banned for 'bad behaviour ' is not a new concept.

Do you know the details of Heysel? With 39 dead and more than 600 injured 'bad behaviour' is hardly an accurate description. 14 Liverpool fans were found guilty of manslaughter.

Iam64

Liloldlady

Now the troops are out of Gaza why not fly some over to keep the Israeli supporters under control!!

I’m catching up and only on page five. Apologies for commenting before RTT but - keep the Ireali supporters under control is so shocking
Maccabi Tel Aviv is a football team. Some of its supporters behave badly, like Millwall. They are not Israeli supporters, they’re football fans
Right, deep breath, back to reading

Not all football fans behave the way the Millwall fans do [my partner actually mentioned Millwall to me when we were discussing it earlier today]. But some teams do attract fans like that and Maccabi appear to be one that does. And, when that happens it also attracts people that are just looking to cause trouble so they can have a fight. Why some people are like that is beyond me but the sad things is that they are . And precautions have to be taken to prevent that trouble. It's awful when there is spontaneous fighting and damage to property for various reasons but this is a case where it is likely to happen and can be prevented.

Good point NotSpaghetti

CAN'T dictate!

The thing about the Club paying for the policing, for any situation, not just this one, what happens if the Club doesn't put up enough money for a safe number of police to attend? Or would the payment be retrospective? Or have they not developed the plan yet?

I don't want a police state where Starmer (or whoever follows him) can dictate security/police matters.

Political parties shouldn't be involved in these decisions.

That policing proposal was put out several months ago, wasn't it? Maybe they should have hurried it through for the new season.

Sadly bad behaviour spoils over everywhere, and we can all find arguments to state. Like the last Manager/Head Coach of Maccabi who had to leave recently because his wife was getting abuse online, and receiving sinister threats. - Simply because her husband was managing a Jewish Club, (he and his wife are Irish).

Liloldlady

Now the troops are out of Gaza why not fly some over to keep the Israeli supporters under control!!

I’m catching up and only on page five. Apologies for commenting before RTT but - keep the Ireali supporters under control is so shocking
Maccabi Tel Aviv is a football team. Some of its supporters behave badly, like Millwall. They are not Israeli supporters, they’re football fans
Right, deep breath, back to reading

Interesting suggestion

I'm very much in favour of the Police's suggestion today that the very rich footie clubs at this level should pay for the policing of their miscreants, whoever they are

Players are paid millions, some people pay thousands to see their team. they want to game?

Pay out.

So, being banned for 'bad behaviour ' is not a new concept.

MayBee70 I have always been thoroughly ashamed when England fans have caused trouble abroad; I’m trying to remember if they have actually been banned at times and, if they have I would fully support that.
Every English football team was banned from all European competitions for 5 years following the disgraceful behaviour of Liverpool fans at Heysel. Many people thought it was very harsh on those teams who would have qualified to participate whose fans hadn't transgressed.