Afghan who threatened to kill Nigel Farage on run from Swedish Police

TerriBull

The concern for migrants without credentials, and their right to apply for asylum here trounces the death of this woman imo, she barely gets a mention merely some faceless person who was responsible for the crime of not supplying the man's preferred biscuit. Lets not shed a tear for her, just an unfortunate casualty really, the moral of the story is clearly don't palm the nation's guests off with substandard biscuits. Far more important that no one should view any potential asylum seeker with suspicion, to do so automatically confers one as a "bigot"

How true

With any large cohort of people from anywhere around the world, including indigenous Brits, there will be a few bad eggs. Not all asylum seekers are nice people, some are horrible, this isn’t at all unusual, sadly is human nature. And unfortunately things got so much worse with regard to small boats after Brexit when the UK could no longer expect EU member states to cooperate with us with regard to processing asylum seekers in Europe before they reach the UK or returning them to the first EU country they arrived in. Was a bit of an own goal.

Oh really, as if home grown men don't do that! It happened to me when I was 15 and walking to see my boyfriend up the road.

this is bordering on the ludicrous.

TerriBull

I can't help thinking there is an absolute denial by some in our society, to acknowledge that there are, and will be, a proportion of asylum seekers who present a very dangerous threat. There's almost a suggestion of "well anyway I prefer them to the far right wing, racist, flag waving thugs" in spite of knowing nothing about them, like this awful individual kicked out of Sweden. It does seem that any asylum seeker is automatically considered to be a good person irrespective, who in time, as no doubt some will be, an absolute asset to the country. Unfortunately there are enough cases, hitting the news and going through the courts to suggest that isn't always the case. It was reported the other day that a young woman was dragged on to a beach in Brighton by several asylum seekers and raped. Then there was the case of the young woman who worked in an asylum hotel who was fatally stabbed by one of the men staying there. Assaults and rapes and in the worst case scenarios murders are not unknown. I often see the argument used, that British criminals will outnumber those who are foreign born, which is completely nonsensical, of course they will, with a population of 70 million or whatever it is now, it stands to reason the majority of criminals in our jails will be British, they are with us and always will be. The criminal element, of some foreign nationals as a ratio of their overall numbers in this country are massively over represented in jails, do we really have to import any more

We had one of those migrants outside Macdonalds, his trousers & pants down, giving himself a hand job. Just horrible. Mums & dads with young kids.
I’ve stopped going into town.

'Nigel Farage has said he would, “don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines” if Theresa May fails to deliver Brexit in the fashion he wants.

Addressing an audience at a £63 a head event in Southampton on Sunday, the former Ukip leader said that if Brexit was not delivered properly, "there will be widespread public anger in this country on a scale and in a way we have never seen before."

He added: "If that happens, much as I'm enjoying myself... I enjoy my trips to the States with Trump and the White House and everything else. I'm enjoying my life'....
Farage isn't exactly squeaky clean himself...

It used to be, well back in the day, someone would "run" from one city and continue to commit the same crimes in another.

Nowadays it's country to country all over Europe.

We are not alone in having incoming criminals hiding amongst genuine refugees and have not been for a long time. Neither is France, Germany, Sweden, Greece, Italy and so on

All have the same difficulties in tracking, prosecuting, and removing.

Remember, in each and every country, you can only return criminals if the country they come from agrees

It would help if accurate information is given in on thread like this as well.

I particularly object to inaccurate information regarding abuse. That false claim is deliberately designed to raise the emotional hate stakes.

That's my point Allira. Not only is it not up to the UK, we actually have no control over events that cause people to seek asylum. No control over wars, droughts, famines.
So, by not having control, we can't stop it happening.
What we can control, is how we deal with the situation.
Shouting 'Stop the boats' has been as effective as Canute's 'Stop the waves.'
Find a way to separate the ones whose claims are genuine, and will be staying, from the ones some Posters are concerned about.
Do it properly and it will cost money. It will be worth it in the end.
People with genuine claims will no longer have to come by boats.
That will reduce the number of boats.
Fewer boats will be easier to track, intercept, deal with, process.

Nail on the head again TerriBull 👏👏👏

Oh God! not that old chestnut again, "I can think of many examples of home grown male perpetrators of hideous crimes" Well, as mentioned up thread given we have a population in the region of 70 million, there are always going to be some aren't there? Do you imagine there is anywhere in the world who don't have their own miscreants It's about an over representation of numbers, such as this statistic from the Dorset Police relating to Bournemouth a town I know well, dated 10/9/25. 116 people awaiting prosecution, 51 of whom are migrants from the 3 hotels in the town.

No I don't think the woman's murder was about the biscuits either that remark was pretty tongue in cheek, it's about a person who clearly doesn't respect our country or citizens so how serious could he possibly be about seeking an asylum here, a country he has decided was not only a safe but desirably soft touch place to settle.

I've no idea what posters feel about the victims of the type of crimes discussed if such casualties never get mentioned.

Allira

^I can think of many examples of home grown male perpetrators of hideous crimes^

Straw argument and a complete red herring to try to distract from the main issue.

Still if it makes folk happy to start threads like this, fair enough. Some sort of moral high ground I suppose.

What exactly do you mean by that sarcastic remark?
Do you not understand people's concerns?

Well said Allira.

I can think of many examples of home grown male perpetrators of hideous crimes

Straw argument and a complete red herring to try to distract from the main issue.

Still if it makes folk happy to start threads like this, fair enough. Some sort of moral high ground I suppose.

What exactly do you mean by that sarcastic remark?
Do you not understand people's concerns?

Maremia

Re all of your concerns above, it is time to spend money on re-jigging the whole system, to get the security needed.
The boats won't stop coming until the reasons for seeking refuge stop happening.

That is not up to the UK.

TerriBull

The concern for migrants without credentials, and their right to apply for asylum here trounces the death of this woman imo, she barely gets a mention merely some faceless person who was responsible for the crime of not supplying the man's preferred biscuit. Lets not shed a tear for her, just an unfortunate casualty really, the moral of the story is clearly don't palm the nation's guests off with substandard biscuits. Far more important that no one should view any potential asylum seeker with suspicion, to do so automatically confers one as a "bigot"

I don't think it's to do with biscuits.

More to do with the fact that this individual is clearly an immoral person. How do you know that we don't feel concern for the victim and her family or that some sort of wishy washy liberal attitudes make us feel concern for this man? Quite an assumption.

I can think of many examples of home grown male perpetrators of hideous crimes. People who are cunning and wriggle their way into families, jobs and so on. Hospitals, schools, prisons. They know how to do it.

Still if it makes folk happy to start threads like this, fair enough. Some sort of moral high ground I suppose.

Re all of your concerns above, it is time to spend money on re-jigging the whole system, to get the security needed.
The boats won't stop coming until the reasons for seeking refuge stop happening.

Terribull. 👏 👏

I had no idea that this hotel housed asylum seekers. It's not far from us. Just goes to show that we have no idea where they are.

Well said Terribull.

There is so much misplaced sympathy from those who do not live with the reality of these situations.

The concern for migrants without credentials, and their right to apply for asylum here trounces the death of this woman imo, she barely gets a mention merely some faceless person who was responsible for the crime of not supplying the man's preferred biscuit. Lets not shed a tear for her, just an unfortunate casualty really, the moral of the story is clearly don't palm the nation's guests off with substandard biscuits. Far more important that no one should view any potential asylum seeker with suspicion, to do so automatically confers one as a "bigot"

TerriBull

That is not denied! Amongst their number however are rapists, criminals and unfortunately muderers, there are a steady flow who are awaiting their court cases. As posted by Kate upthread, one woman working in a migrant hotel was stabbed to death, is her life worth nothing? If he hadn't entered our country she'd still be alive. These men need to be processed before they are allowed to reach our shores. The present system is shambolic and yes the previous government as well as this one have been useless in this matter.

How I agree with your post. That young woman would still be alive, she had a right to live her life, illegal migrants have no right to be here in the first place, and then to enter illegally and commit murder. Beyond angry 😡

I don’t dispute that Fayaz Hosseini is a deeply unpleasant and dangerous man and should not be in the UK but what is reported in the opening post does not accord with the sentencing remarks - which were easy to find:

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Rex-v-Fayaz-Khan-aka-Fayaz-Hosseini-.pdf

SENTENCING REMARKS OF MRS JUSTICE STEYN DBE

… between 2019 and 2024 you were convicted in Sweden of 17 offences on 12 occasions. These include multiple drug and dishonesty offences and, most pertinently, the following offences:

• Threatening behaviour towards a public servant (1 month imprisonment);

• an Offence against the act relating to the banning of knives and other dangerous objects (fine);

• Threatening behaviour (3 months’ imprisonment);

• Causing minor bodily injury (in effect, no separate penalty);

• Vandalism (2 months’ imprisonment); and

• Possessing an offensive weapon in a public place (6 months’ imprisonment).

Having regard to the nature of the particular offences I have identified, the fact that they have all been committed during the past six years, and their relevance to the offence of Making athreat to kill, your antecedents are a significant aggravating factor.

There is nothing about child sexual offences. As the judge also remarked:

You said, ‘I come to England because I want marriage with your sister’, words which were clearly intended as a sexual threat then surely she would have deemed other alleged multiple child sexual offences pertinent.

The judge also said:

You claim that as a result of your history in Afghanistan, this trial and your social media profile, you would be at risk from the Taliban in Afghanistan. You have adduced no evidence in support of any aspect of this submission. You left a safe European country, Sweden, where you had lived for nine years, and travelled through other safe European countries (Germany and France), before coming to the UK. On your own case, your asylum claim has been fully adjudicated in Sweden and rejected. You have not stated what the grounds for rejection were. I am not persuaded, on the evidence before me, that you have an arguable asylum claim such as to reduce your culpability.

She also said:

In your police interview you asserted that ‘Fayaz Hosseini’ is your real name, and that you gave a different name to the UK authorities because you have enemies who you did not want to find you. I am sure that you gave the UK authorities a false name and a false date of birth. That was not because you were hiding from so-called ‘enemies’: if that were the case, you would not have live-streamed your journey on social media. It was because you have a criminal record in Sweden, and in that country you were facing an extant prison sentence of 6 months.

The Swedish government has withdrawn an extradition matter concerning an alleged knife offence. You claimed asylum in Sweden which was, in due course, rejected. You claim that you had exhausted all appeal rights in Sweden and had been served with notice requiring you to leave Sweden within 25 days.

Given what Judge Steyn has said, I cannot see any reason why, on completion of his sentence, he won’t be returned to Afghanistan.

I'm not sure why, but seeing the box of crisps really upset me. Kindness.

Exactly Allira.

The other question, Kate1949 is that why are asylum seekers allowed to wander the streets of our towns if we have no idea who they are, where they are from or why they are here?

Regarding the young woman who was murdered in Walsall. A witness said that she had previously had biscuits thrown in her face by an asylum seeker as they weren't ones that he liked. The CCTV on the night that she died shows her sitting in reception beside a large box of Walkers crisps which she could give out. You can see this man staring at her which allegedly he had been doing for hours. He was approached by the welfare officer at the hotel to ask if he was ok. Who was looking after the young woman's welfare? Poor girl.

Allira

^But are you dear posters prepared to pay more in taxes to do this or is it empty rhetoric and grumbles^

That sounds incredibly patronising!
This is older people, pensioners, you are addressing in the main, some of whom may scarcely be eligible to pay much tax.

It is up to Government whether or not we pay more in taxes. It is up to the Government if they tackle the wealthy who evade tax instead of penalising those working hard and struggling to make ends meet and those who provide food for the population.

What would you like us to do? Go along to Ms Reeves with a tenner in an envelope every week labelled 'My voluntary tax'?

I'd like to see an effort made to stop waste first, tackle the lawyers who keep appealing on behalf of those refused asylum for whatever reason and to make a more robust effort to deport those people who fail the process. One family has been in the country for eight years, refused asylum three times but are still here, being moved around from place to place awaiting the result of yet another appeal.

Some lawyers are becoming very wealthy from this new industry. I hope they are paying the tax due or, being lawyers, have they found loopholes?

Well said Allira

Of course, some are staying illegally and the government is doing its best with limited resources to root them out.

And making a complete hash of that too as this family knows!! 😁