Grooming gangs in London

He acknowledges the existence of gangs very clearly, read his actual words Primrose53. Susan Hall is trying to make political capital from distorting his words.

Casdon

January 2025.
www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/keeping-londoners-safe-0

Thank you for adding that link which is just the same as the video link from You Tube where Khan tries to wriggle out of answering Susan Hall’s very direct questions. Just reinforces what I said. 👏

January 2025.
www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/keeping-londoners-safe-0

Primrose53

Casdon

If you Google Sadiq Khan Grooming Gangs, there is lots of information going back. I can’t find any evidence to suggest that he has ever denied gangs exist in London, or that action has not been taken against individual gangs. What he has not done is to accede to requests for a London specific inquiry.

This video says otherwise Casdon

youtu.be/bek1SNRv6Nk?si=-6CBf0Sz_95k5C9_

Try googling it for yourself Primrose53, I always check stories out before I read them because so often they don’t tell the full story. Not giving a direct answer in one interview does not mean that he has not previously acknowledged the existence of gangs.

Susan Hall asks Khan about grooming gangs in London 9 times and he refuses to give a direct answer.

youtu.be/noJCNh60lfk?si=geiHipvBZer72-5C

Casdon

If you Google Sadiq Khan Grooming Gangs, there is lots of information going back. I can’t find any evidence to suggest that he has ever denied gangs exist in London, or that action has not been taken against individual gangs. What he has not done is to accede to requests for a London specific inquiry.

This video says otherwise Casdon

youtu.be/bek1SNRv6Nk?si=-6CBf0Sz_95k5C9_

If you Google Sadiq Khan Grooming Gangs, there is lots of information going back. I can’t find any evidence to suggest that he has ever denied gangs exist in London, or that action has not been taken against individual gangs. What he has not done is to accede to requests for a London specific inquiry.

Grooming, sexual abuse through County Lines has been written about. Many of those networks I believe emanated from London.

How anyone, much less a police chief or the mayor of a city could believe their area was free of gangs organising the sexual exploitation of children and adolescents is beyond me. Do these people believe it’s only linked to men of largely Muslim Pakistani heritage in areas of deprivation in northern former mill towns

Was it the Police who were telling Khan that there were no grooming gangs in London?
How else would any politician know either way?

Primrose53 I am not at all surprised, which in itself is really sad.

Met Police have just announced that they are now reviewing 9,000 ….. yes, 9,000 grooming gang cases in London alone.

Sadiq Khan has repeatedly said there were none! He is utterly hopeless and should resign.

Iam64 I think you've misunderstood what I've been writing. Quite honestly, I'm so fed up of being accused of things I haven't written and the aggression that I give up.

The survivors want different things. They’re different personalities , at different stages of recovery. It’s an investigative inquiry. Some are concerned it needs to look at organised CSA/E involving gangs other than the narrow focus on men of Pakistani Muslim heritage. Others express different views. This is what led to the Jess Phillips demands she go, or stay
I understand the fear of a chair with sw or police background but imo it’s misplaced. Jay has a sw background, did brilliant work on her inquiry

Thank you for asking those questions Maremia.

Yes, I do think they want/expect different things and I think the people advising them are pushing them to expect different things too. It's quite interesting to read their individual posts on social media and the statements they've made through legal advisors.

I don't know who gets to advise/choose, but somebody has got to do it - and make him/herself very unpopular because he/she won't be able to please everybody. It's such a poisoned chalice, I'm really not sure who would take it on. Moreover, Farage and Dorries are now saying an inquiry wouldn't be appropriate. And people still blame Starmer!

Perhaps another way of phrasing it is to ask respectfully what do the victims want at this point in time, from a 'legal' process?
Is part of the emerging difficulties that they want/need different things?
And then the really difficult one, who gets to choose/decide?

I think we are singing from similar sheets Wyllow. We have to acknowledge and integrate as that can help avoid being tripped up by it when least expected

Thank you for your replies.

It means it's not totally dominating your whole life anymore: you have processed it partially: it never goes away but other parts of your life start to have have meaning as well:

at best it makes you stronger though adversity, especially if you find others in your situation.

It goes without saying that your trauma and being a victim has to be accepted as such by significant others in order to heal at all.

Sorry, that question sounds snippy and that wasn’t my intention. My feeling is it can become part of us but not dominate or define our lives. Achieving this takes time, determination and can be supported by skilled therapists and loving partners, family and friends ,

What does ‘get over ‘ trauma mean?

People do go on and live good lives Maremia. Apologies if my dislike for the word ‘closure” is what had you conclude victims never get over it,
It’s complicated

It's dreadful to know that the Victims will never get over it.

Thank you Iam

Maremia, I was initially opposed to the current inquiry on the basis we’ve had many. Prof Jay’s comprehensive report and recommendations were enough, imo. Implement her twenty recommendations and move on. That was the view Starmer and Jess Phillips view, they were persuaded and eventually so was I, that the particular horrors committed by the cse perpetrated by men of largely Muslim Pakistani heritage against very vulnerable children, and the largely awful response by police and other agencies meant a specific inquiry was needed,
Those of us with experience predicted the difficulties currently on show.

Current practices are much improved. GMP are investigating and prosecuting these men, for historical as well as current offences.
The current inquiry should identify ‘how these crimes come about’
Closure for victims - I don’t believe in closure. We can try to accept our experiences and avoid being defined by them -