Grooming gangs in London

How SK can sleep at night is beyond me.

The authorities have finally admitted they got it wrong and they covered up something they were fully aware of and it seems are still doing so.

We only have to read of all the rapes and sexual assaults on young girls and women by immigrant men to know these men think white women are considered fair game.

SK is on record 10 times denying the existence of Asian Grooming Gangs in London.

I am not in the least bit surprised he has been found to be wrong 🤬🤬🤬

And apart from that I just read that two victims of the grooming gangs in Bradford have resigned from the supposed inquiry there. In four months nothing has been set up and proposed chairs are from former police and social services.
The women have had enough of both in the past and it’s akin to them marking their own homework.
It’s just so depressing.

Oreo

And apart from that I just read that two victims of the grooming gangs in Bradford have resigned from the supposed inquiry there. In four months nothing has been set up and proposed chairs are from former police and social services.
The women have had enough of both in the past and it’s akin to them marking their own homework.
It’s just so depressing.

I saw their interviews on breakfast news, my heart goes out to these brave young women.

It is disgraceful that those who were there to protect them sided with their abusers 🤬🤬🤬

Deny! Deny! Deny! Victim blame, acceptance after an overwhelming tsunami of evidence is produced, lessons have been learned, An enquiry. Meanwhile it will be carrying on somewhere or other

GrannyGravy13

Oreo

And apart from that I just read that two victims of the grooming gangs in Bradford have resigned from the supposed inquiry there. In four months nothing has been set up and proposed chairs are from former police and social services.
The women have had enough of both in the past and it’s akin to them marking their own homework.
It’s just so depressing.

I saw their interviews on breakfast news, my heart goes out to these brave young women.

It is disgraceful that those who were there to protect them sided with their abusers 🤬🤬🤬

10 pm tonight GB News has a lengthy interview with Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood about the grooming gangs.
GB News is the only TV Channel she is talking to or at least the first.

Maggie Oliver coming on shortly.

It is dishonest and quite deliberate, and a tactic that Labour employ with increasing frequency; refusing to admit the situation, denying it exists, then agreeing to an investigation but simply ignoring it.
Inquiries were promised after Jess Phillips did her best to limit them to five only; there was footage of her in Parliament blaming the Tories for everything because it happened during their watch. Perhaps now she realises the difficulties and obstructions they and anyone else has in conducting an investigation with people as unfortunately influential as Sadiq Khan denying the facts.

GrannyGravy13

Oreo

And apart from that I just read that two victims of the grooming gangs in Bradford have resigned from the supposed inquiry there. In four months nothing has been set up and proposed chairs are from former police and social services.
The women have had enough of both in the past and it’s akin to them marking their own homework.
It’s just so depressing.

I saw their interviews on breakfast news, my heart goes out to these brave young women.

It is disgraceful that those who were there to protect them sided with their abusers 🤬🤬🤬

Listen to one of the victims giving us the reasons why she ( and 2 others) are not attending)
It’s a complete stitch up.
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002l34l

eazybee

It is dishonest and quite deliberate, and a tactic that Labour employ with increasing frequency; refusing to admit the situation, denying it exists, then agreeing to an investigation but simply ignoring it.
Inquiries were promised after Jess Phillips did her best to limit them to five only; there was footage of her in Parliament blaming the Tories for everything because it happened during their watch. Perhaps now she realises the difficulties and obstructions they and anyone else has in conducting an investigation with people as unfortunately influential as Sadiq Khan denying the facts.

Excuse me: the initial report on the grooming gangs came out in 2022 under the Conservative government, with 22 recommendations, and only one was put in place by the conservatives, that was to set up units in some cities with special knowledge and powers

It was left. Nothing was done to follow up on prosecutions nor protection for women and girls still being abused

So the Labour Party combine and have actually implemented more of those recommendations. Clearly coverups are completely wrong, I would never defend them, but lets ask the question

Why didnt Boris Johnson and then Truss and then Sunak move ahead on prosecutions? Why didn't they put any more measures in place to protect those still being abused

and note: Maggie Oliver is not just concerned with abuse done by those of non white origin: she covers all abuse, including that of young men

So why are we only talking about those abusers yet again and ignoring the huge levels of domestic abuse going on day after day, in homes of white people, white gangs?

Speaking as a victim of co-ercive abuse over 11 years and a member of the Labour Party I can assure you that most of us do not support suppressing any abuse whatsoever. And I ask again

why was it not immediately tacked after the years long, huge cost,

Here is the report: there was ample evidence to then proceed further over 3 years ago

www.iicsa.org.uk/index.html

So why are we only talking about those abusers yet again and ignoring the huge levels of domestic abuse going on day after day, in homes of white people, white gangs?

Primrose just said grooming gangs.

You are putting a spin on all this, too, Wyllow, which is detracting from the horror of it all.

You mean you don't like or agree with what I said.

Posts upthread are also a spin in that sense, ie just a different "take" on an issue.

Having experienced Domestic Abuse over quite along period myself I feel very entitled to speak out:

I also am about to volunteer at our local support and counselling organisation for those girls and women who have been subject to abuse and been invited to speak out at a conference at the end of November run by the L Party local women as we are unhappy with burying the subject in its entirety.

I feel under no obligation to follow exactly the subject as in the O\P

because I do not believe they neither should or can be separated out.

As far as I am aware we are not obliged in GN to follow the views of the O/P, and they are just that, views on part of a wider subject.

We are talking about endemic abuse of women and girls by powerful, nearly entirely all men and its up to us women to call it out wherever it is.

You'd maybe be surprised by the number of women who when I have opened up admit quietly that, well, such and such does/has happened in their lives - because many men are still repeating old patterns.

Thank goodness on the whole these are been by a chunk of younger men and women, but its still endemic.

last sentence correction -should read

"Thank goodness on the whole these have been left behind by a chunk of younger men and women" but..etc.

If everyone stuck to the OP, it wouldn't be the GN style, now, would it?

This grooming gang situation and the lack of action is the worst thing I have ever heard about Britain in my lifetime. Far worse than the Epstein scandal. I would be so ashamed if I was one of those politicians turning a blind eye. Hope they can’t sleep at night.

petra I have heard the interviews with these brave young women, you are correct in your assessment stitch up

Wyllow3

eazybee

It is dishonest and quite deliberate, and a tactic that Labour employ with increasing frequency; refusing to admit the situation, denying it exists, then agreeing to an investigation but simply ignoring it.
Inquiries were promised after Jess Phillips did her best to limit them to five only; there was footage of her in Parliament blaming the Tories for everything because it happened during their watch. Perhaps now she realises the difficulties and obstructions they and anyone else has in conducting an investigation with people as unfortunately influential as Sadiq Khan denying the facts.

Excuse me: the initial report on the grooming gangs came out in 2022 under the Conservative government, with 22 recommendations, and only one was put in place by the conservatives, that was to set up units in some cities with special knowledge and powers

It was left. Nothing was done to follow up on prosecutions nor protection for women and girls still being abused

So the Labour Party combine and have actually implemented more of those recommendations. Clearly coverups are completely wrong, I would never defend them, but lets ask the question

Why didnt Boris Johnson and then Truss and then Sunak move ahead on prosecutions? Why didn't they put any more measures in place to protect those still being abused

and note: Maggie Oliver is not just concerned with abuse done by those of non white origin: she covers all abuse, including that of young men

So why are we only talking about those abusers yet again and ignoring the huge levels of domestic abuse going on day after day, in homes of white people, white gangs?

Speaking as a victim of co-ercive abuse over 11 years and a member of the Labour Party I can assure you that most of us do not support suppressing any abuse whatsoever. And I ask again

why was it not immediately tacked after the years long, huge cost,

Here is the report: there was ample evidence to then proceed further over 3 years ago

www.iicsa.org.uk/index.html

Excellent, clear and factual post Willow. Thank you.

You will be personally attacked, I'm afraid. So I felt you needed to know there are those who appreciate you taking your time to do this.

Just listening to Maggie Oliver and one of the survivors.

Disgusting outburst from Jess Phillips, so much for being the Minister for Safeguarding.

These enquiries should focus on the Asian Grooming Gangs and the way these girls were dismissed.

The Councils and Police Departments were running scared in case they were seen as racist…

GrannyGravy13

Just listening to Maggie Oliver and one of the survivors.

Disgusting outburst from Jess Phillips, so much for being the Minister for Safeguarding.

These enquiries should focus on the Asian Grooming Gangs and the way these girls were dismissed.

The Councils and Police Departments were running scared in case they were seen as racist…

Absolutely this!

They tried to “broaden” the scope of the inquiry to take the focus away from the fact it was mainly Asian men.

Why can we not simply face up to facts that this was an absolute travesty and it is still going on?

They are rioting in Ireland after the alleged race of a 10 year old girl that took place in an immigrant hostel.

Perhaps Jess Phillips could go one step further and appoint the senior police officer who was pointed out to her ( Maggie Oliver) by one of the victims as one of her rapists. 🤬
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility as I’m sure she’s not aware of this fact.

The voices of the victims are really the ONLY pertinent ones in this matter conflating their historic exploitation with the wider issue of sexual abuse per se. undoubtedly emanating from the dominant ethnic white population, because they still represent around 80% plus of the make up of our country. To cite that in what has evolved as a niche situation is a smokescreen and a side issue, but worst of all an obfuscation as to what should be being addressed.

To quote directly from the victims who have removed themselves, extracts obtained by campaign group Open Justice UK appeared to contradict the letter sent by Ms Phillips to the Commons' Committee.

Many victims believe widening the inquiry will dilute its focus on the failure of local authorities, police and other officials to tackle grooming by largely Pakistani gangs.

Last night Ms Goddard, one of the victims called on the minister to resign or be fired.

"Jess Phillips needs to be removed because I don't think her conduct...this last 24 hours especially, has been acceptable for the position that she holds" Ms Goddard told Channel 4 News. "She has publicly accused me of lying when she knows I'm telling the truth" Earlier she said "BEING DISMISSED AND CONTRADICTED BY A MINISTER WHEN YOU'RE TELLING THE TRUTH TAKES YOU RIGHT BACK TO THE FEELING OF NOT BEING BELIEVED ALL OVER AGAIN"

Wyllow3
It was set up to look into the grooming gangs in Bradford in this particular case and in other cities in general.The ethnicity of these gangs was Pakistani heritage men.They went to children’s homes and preyed on vulnerable young girls and in some cases boys.It’s been an absolute outrage that society didn’t know about at the time but police and social services did but effectively shrugged and looked the other way.
There are other types of sexual abuse including within the home, but this investigation is about grooming gangs, can these poor abused kids at least have this?
The Conservatives didn’t do enough it’s true but Labour promised to be different in so many ways.This enquiry is already buckling at the knees.

Good post Oreo

petra

Perhaps Jess Phillips could go one step further and appoint the senior police officer who was pointed out to her ( Maggie Oliver) by one of the victims as one of her rapists. 🤬
It’s not beyond the realms of possibility as I’m sure she’s not aware of this fact.

Sorry, petra. I'm not sure I've understood your post correctly. If I have, I'm surprised somebody else hasn't commented. Just to clarify ... are you saying that one of the victims has accused Maggie Oliver as a rapist?

(Apologies if I'm being stupid and have misunderstood.)