Grooming gangs in London

Maremia

This Thread has dropped but I must add this post.
'Female survivors of grooming gangs demand apology from Nigel Farage' that's a headline from The Guardian tonight.
The article goes on to say,
' Five women said Reform leader's comments that they were victims of other types of sexual abuse were 'degrading'.
then
'There is no point holding an inquiry if the scope is so small the decision is already made before it begins'

Exactly! All very fishy! Maybe Jim Gamble will say more. I had a feeling there was something going on, but I didn't know what or who. It's all beginning to make sense.

This Thread has dropped but I must add this post.
'Female survivors of grooming gangs demand apology from Nigel Farage' that's a headline from The Guardian tonight.
The article goes on to say,
' Five women said Reform leader's comments that they were victims of other types of sexual abuse were 'degrading'.
then
'There is no point holding an inquiry if the scope is so small the decision is already made before it begins'

We seem to be getting to the bottom of who has been trying to scupper the inquiry.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/29/female-survivors-of-grooming-gangs-demand-apology-from-nigel-farage

Wyllow3

Yes TerriBull broadly, its about what males do to women without permission, in whatever context.

Yes there is broad agreement on this thread that some specific grooms gangs are going to be a focus

But fundamentally its about Entitlement by Men considering its fine or they have rights over our bodies and our minds.

And standing up in all contexts, across religion and cultures

Another good post from TerriBull - thank you

I’m with Wyllow - fundamentally it’s about Entitlement by men. The tv drama Adolescence shon a light on the influences our youngsters are trying to negotiate, we need good adult male role models and we get pdiddy

🤣

Mt61

Primrose53

Susan Hall asks Khan about grooming gangs in London 9 times and he refuses to give a direct answer.

youtu.be/noJCNh60lfk?si=geiHipvBZer72-5C

He’s such a self centred prat of a little man.

Are you size-ist?

Yes, there are quite a few of these around, in and out of politics. 🙄

Primrose53

Susan Hall asks Khan about grooming gangs in London 9 times and he refuses to give a direct answer.

youtu.be/noJCNh60lfk?si=geiHipvBZer72-5C

He’s such a self centred prat of a little man.

Yes TerriBull broadly, its about what males do to women without permission, in whatever context.

Yes there is broad agreement on this thread that some specific grooms gangs are going to be a focus

But fundamentally its about Entitlement by Men considering its fine or they have rights over our bodies and our minds.

And standing up in all contexts, across religion and cultures

I think given how mealy mouthed certain institutions have been in trying to skew the acceptance of certain behavioural traits, there needed to be a fight back from somewhere. Look at this case in the news at the moment, the nurses who were expected to accept a male identifying woman into their changing room who made continual comments to one of the women "aren't you going to get undressed then?" Why would anyone want some fella they don't knw from Adam gawping at them at their most vulnerable. Michelle Dewberry GB News tackled that head on, before the court ruling, when she found an "identifier" in the Virgin Active changing rooms when she confronted them with "what's a man doing in the women's locker room?" Their response "we aim to be inclusive" Her "well here's my resignation then" Thank God we have women with enough clout to call this rubbish out. GB news and its influence can be attributed to weak politicians kowtowing to niche dictators and their unreasonable demands that make life increasingly difficult for the mainstream majority.

Wyllow3

"They were doing so because they felt passionately that these undocumented males were being allowed into our country and housed in unsuitable places"

Hang on a bit, we are now bringing immigration and documentation into the issue

afaik the males involved were British Citizens. I've just done a google and have found no evidence to the contrary

Any more far right obsessions to add?

You misunderstand.

eazybee

It is dishonest and quite deliberate, and a tactic that Labour employ with increasing frequency; refusing to admit the situation, denying it exists, then agreeing to an investigation but simply ignoring it.
Inquiries were promised after Jess Phillips did her best to limit them to five only; there was footage of her in Parliament blaming the Tories for everything because it happened during their watch. Perhaps now she realises the difficulties and obstructions they and anyone else has in conducting an investigation with people as unfortunately influential as Sadiq Khan denying the facts.

In other words "gaslighting". Like they do most things. Disgusted, those poor girls/ woman where can they turn to if the above are denying their plight. Then we here another sexual predator has been let loose on our streets. As so many have been done recently. So 😡.

Well, I couldn’t be called far right because I’ve said I voted Labour on another thread.

So I got called a liar and a fantasist instead. Twice.

Anything to muddy the truth🙄

"They were doing so because they felt passionately that these undocumented males were being allowed into our country and housed in unsuitable places"

Hang on a bit, we are now bringing immigration and documentation into the issue

afaik the males involved were British Citizens. I've just done a google and have found no evidence to the contrary

Any more far right obsessions to add?

Galaxy

Again link people to the far right if you wish, like the last safeguarding issue where we were all far right bigots that will have absolutely no impact on me and I suspect no impact on the many women raising concerns.

No impact on me either. Using this argument is just deflection, pure and simple.

So all the Pink Ladies, mothers and grandmothers who held peaceful protests are all “far right”? Rubbish!

They were doing so because they felt passionately that these undocumented males were being allowed into our country and housed in unsuitable places.

These women have been proved absolutely right not “far right”.

The trans issue had me, family and friends finding ourselves aligning with groups with which we’d previously had little in common

Yes Galaxy, political football indeed

Yes GB news were one of the first channels who gave a voice to feminists on the gender issue. I don't see them as the bad guys.
The victims are also being used as a political football by those who don't have the bravery to address the issue. I am grateful for gb news for many things, so are quite a few feminists who would have at one time called themselves left. It is a funny world these days.

I have never, ever, ever thought of you as a fat right bigot, Galaxy. Very, very strong as I believe I am on Women's Issues, both with good reason.

But we cannot avoid the fact that the "latching on" of the far right to this specific cause started with Elon Musk's intervention, and the seizing on it by the far right and pushed hard by GB news has happened, even to the extent as I write above that they attacked Nazir Afzal

The victims are being used in my opinion as a political football when this occurs.

Again link people to the far right if you wish, like the last safeguarding issue where we were all far right bigots that will have absolutely no impact on me and I suspect no impact on the many women raising concerns.

Nazir Afzal has been interviewed on various news programmes this week. I’ve never heard him say anything on the subject of organised and sexual abuse in families, that hasn’t been compassionate, insightful and determined to support forensic investigations leading to successful prosecutions.

There are a number of comments on this subject that seek to smear the Labour Party, Jess Phillips, areas where Labour has MPs and councillors who have Muslim Pakistani heritage. This subject is too important to use it as a political football

No he wanted her to mention Muslim and Pakistani origin so he could accuse her of racism, and that's exactly what caused the cover ups in the first place.

If true, the very opposite of justice[assuming carried out in a fair way].

needless to say, the emoji appeared accidentally!

The whole of this thread contains so much views on the subject, so many queries, so much heartfelt feeling an this an wider indues,

yet its clear a small group of GNs are determined to boil it down to an attack on Khan despite reading the width of what he has said

For the nth time, it's so clear there this small group are determined to push the same old rhetoric of the far right.

Even Maggie Oliver's organisation, as I have clearly posted before, now sees the problems of abuse in a far wider light

Listen, there are going to be adequately specific enquiries, I suggest we wait for the outcome.

I expect, as people have alluded to on this long thread, there will be people who have experienced religious abuse, the huge numbers of domestic grooming, grooming in our community as a whole. abuse in other big organisations are waiting to see the results with interest.
And its good that will we see those hiding perpetrators as far as possible uted.

But I personally feel your specific attacks hold a degree of Islamophobia.

Over the years there have been so many leaders and ordinary people of the Islam faith also calling out what happened. Equally shocked by what some of their men have done.

Goodness, it was a Muslim in the first place who started specific prosecutions - Nazir Afzal
At the time he said

"One of his first decisions on becoming a chief crown prosecutor was to initiate prosecutions in the case of the Rochdale child sex abuse ring, overturning an earlier decision by the CPS. He suggested that "white professionals' over-sensitivity to political correctness and fear of appearing racist may well have contributed to justice being stalled".[3] He said "I do feel that there's a deficit of leadership in some parts of the Muslim community. They could be much more challenging of certain behaviours"

(wiki)

and he was attacked by the far right, just read this!

" Despite his actions being the catalyst for the successful prosecution of the Rochdale child sex abuse ring,

he was targeted by the English Defence League and door-stepped by Nick Griffin, causing him to need police protection

Regarding far-right campaigns to deport Afzal, he reiterated "I was born in Birmingham. They can deport me to Birmingham if they want to", and said "I think if you are getting it from both sides, you are probably getting something right"

June 2025
www.london.gov.uk/who-we-are/what-london-assembly-does/questions-mayor/find-an-answer/crime-london-supplementary-1

Casdon he acknowledges gangs operating county lines but apparently doesn't understand what rape gangs are. Is he really unaware of the rape gangs that operated in Rotherham etc? No he wanted her to mention Muslim and Pakistani origin so he could accuse her of racism, and that's exactly what caused the cover ups in the first place. He is a disgrace to the position. On social media he posts his self-congratulating posts but turns off replies because he mustn't be challenged.