It was Allira, and I hope the result is better than 'lessons have been learned'.
As Fried said, something like, he tried to give himself up, but they wouldn't take him back.
I don't think it was planned. He made no attempt to hide.
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Manhunt for Ethiopian asylum seeker sex offender accidentally released
(184 Posts)You couldn’t make this up!
Before it was even publicly announced a GB News viewer was suspicious of a man in a grey tracksuit carrying a large, clear plastic bag with his belongings. He was asking others for directions and she videoed him on her phone. He is still on the run but they know from her info that he caught a lunchtime train to London. Good for her!
A complete cock up.
Allira I'm not 100% sure about whether he was due to be released. My understanding is that he was due to be released from the prison system because (including his time on remand) he had already served whatever the minimum time of his sentence was.
He should have been transferred immediately to a detention centre for deportation, but for some reason, he was released to do as he pleased.
Galaxy
It is possible to want justice to be done and to have zero sympathy for him. I do sometimes think women as a group are expected to hold sympathy for those who would abuse them. I am not sure if that happens to other groups.
Exactly! I don't have any sympathy for him but I do want justice. He wasn't given a death sentence, but there are some nut jobs around who think he deserved one - it only takes one.
It is possible to want justice to be done and to have zero sympathy for him. I do sometimes think women as a group are expected to hold sympathy for those who would abuse them. I am not sure if that happens to other groups.
growstuff
StripeyGran
Just to be crystal clear, I have no " sympathies" for a criminal who hurt a child and a woman.
It's not a question of having sympathies. It's about justice and upholding it. He was charged, found guilty and sentenced and served his punishment (same as anybody else who had done the same and received the same sentence).
It wasn't his fault that the authorities seemingly didn't want to have anything more to do with him.
It wasn't his fault that the authorities seemingly didn't want to have anything more to do with him.
I don't think it was that at all growstuff.
At first it would seem as if someone had perhaps received a backhander from someone to allow his release but more likely it was sheer incompetence because he was not due to be released at all.
StripeyGran
growstuff
StripeyGran
Just to be crystal clear, I have no " sympathies" for a criminal who hurt a child and a woman.
It's not a question of having sympathies. It's about justice and upholding it. He was charged, found guilty and sentenced and served his punishment (same as anybody else who had done the same and received the same sentence).
It wasn't his fault that the authorities seemingly didn't want to have anything more to do with him.I felt the need to write that, incase I was basically attacked on this site.
Thanks.
Probably necessary.
🤷♀️ overly dramatic.
growstuff
StripeyGran
Just to be crystal clear, I have no " sympathies" for a criminal who hurt a child and a woman.
It's not a question of having sympathies. It's about justice and upholding it. He was charged, found guilty and sentenced and served his punishment (same as anybody else who had done the same and received the same sentence).
It wasn't his fault that the authorities seemingly didn't want to have anything more to do with him.
I felt the need to write that, incase I was basically attacked on this site.
Thanks.
StripeyGran
Just to be crystal clear, I have no " sympathies" for a criminal who hurt a child and a woman.
It's not a question of having sympathies. It's about justice and upholding it. He was charged, found guilty and sentenced and served his punishment (same as anybody else who had done the same and received the same sentence).
It wasn't his fault that the authorities seemingly didn't want to have anything more to do with him.
growstuff
GrannyGravy13
I really do not have one iota of sympathy for this criminal, my sympathies lie with the female child and women he molested.
I expect them, their families and friends are relieved he has been found.
Hopefully he will be back whence he came from pdq.Ahem! Not one iota? He knew he was being deported and accepted it. He'd served the time British justice said he should. He didn't want to be released and wanted to be readmitted.
Unfortunately, there are people around who have the same attitude as you, but would go further.
Thank goodness he's been found and can now be deported, where he'll have no further access to British girls.
Why should I have any sympathy for him?
My attitude? Please explain…
GrannyGravy13
I really do not have one iota of sympathy for this criminal, my sympathies lie with the female child and women he molested.
I expect them, their families and friends are relieved he has been found.
Hopefully he will be back whence he came from pdq.
Ahem! Not one iota? He knew he was being deported and accepted it. He'd served the time British justice said he should. He didn't want to be released and wanted to be readmitted.
Unfortunately, there are people around who have the same attitude as you, but would go further.
Thank goodness he's been found and can now be deported, where he'll have no further access to British girls.
Just to be crystal clear, I have no " sympathies" for a criminal who hurt a child and a woman.
I really do not have one iota of sympathy for this criminal, my sympathies lie with the female child and women he molested.
I expect them, their families and friends are relieved he has been found.
Hopefully he will be back whence he came from pdq.
I'm glad, it could have turned nasty.
Thanks to ..... the public!
NotSpaghetti
*He has been found*
Yes!
About 8:30am in the Finsbury Park area of N.London.
He's been arrested. I wonder just how many police hours and resources have been wasted on this fiasco.
Iam64
On SureStart, I’m influenced by my work experience where I saw the real benefits and the negative impacts when family centres closed. One that did really good work with hard to reach families closed. The council decided to use limited funding by transforming the centre into one aimed at young offenders. The research of course, shows early years intervention reduces teen pregnancy, offending, drug use etc.
The outstanding family centres saved public in my town was closed when the council could no longer meet its statutory duties
Iam64
I was talking to my retired social worker friend just yesterday afternoon on this very subject. She was involved in one of these schemes ( young offenders) set up by our council, Southend.
What was lovely to hear was that she often sees some of them posting on the NextDoor app. From this she can see that she and the scheme made a difference to these youngsters lives 🥰
He has been found
Iam I agree entirely.
SureStart took a while to bed in but it was working at its best when the closures and cuts started.
Very shortsighted.
escaped
Mysterious definitely.
How many people have to "set free" or sign a prisoners out? I don't know, but surely more than just one person processes them?
You couldn't make it up. They said he's got a bank account with access to funds. Surely the first thing to do would be to cut off all funds. Of course they'll be lessons learnt and enquiries aaaahhhhgggg!
growstuff
NotSpaghetti
I think, if I remember correctly that this is a remand prison so they will probably have many discharges every day.
He apparently told the van driver he was supposed to be deported and had no idea what to do as the prison had turned him away... Who knows, if he can find a police station he may well hand himself in.
I hope he does... before someone murders or maims him.That (your last sentence) is what I am hoping too. He doesn't deserve to be murdered for what he did, but I fear there are vigilantes around who might take the law into their own hands.
That had crossed my mind, but hopefully, any person intent on harming him would realise it served no purpose.
However, I also hope he hands himself in before another child might be at risk.
Both ways, he needs to.
On SureStart, I’m influenced by my work experience where I saw the real benefits and the negative impacts when family centres closed. One that did really good work with hard to reach families closed. The council decided to use limited funding by transforming the centre into one aimed at young offenders. The research of course, shows early years intervention reduces teen pregnancy, offending, drug use etc.
The outstanding family centres saved public in my town was closed when the council could no longer meet its statutory duties
StripeyGran
I'm sure I recall a time when most things worked reasonably well most of the time. Trains, power, education ,care.
Not rose tinted specs.
And you'd think with the help of technology these things should have greatly improved and saved valuable time, but no!
Like a city with probably some of the most cctv and best communications network in the world can't track down a criminal in prison gear!
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