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Another stabbing by an immigrant. When do we wake up and smell the coffee?

(206 Posts)
Sago Tue 28-Oct-25 16:28:59

I am so sad to read of yet another stabbing resulting in the death of an innocent 49 year old man.

How can our government standby and allow this to happen again and again?

I feel sad, frightened and in total disbelief that this is happening on such a regular basis.

There will be a revolution and God help all the politicians.

Galaxy Tue 28-Oct-25 17:26:00

How will you look at knife crime if you won't acknowledge the issue, black males feature at a very high rate in knife crime figures, as perpetrators and victims. My guess is the link will be fatherlessness and gangs. Unless we are able to talk about this, then we can't look at the problem.

InRainbows Tue 28-Oct-25 17:24:39

GrannyGravy13

Wyllow3 maybe start a thread on white attackers?

Why?

Crimes happen and are committed by every demographic

Each one is relevant and tragic

I don't think that deporting immigrants would change very much there. Crime did not arrive on a boat.

Opal Tue 28-Oct-25 17:21:32

I think you're the one that's missing the point Wyllow3. Obviously crimes are committed by members of the public who are born and bred here - always have, always will be.

BUT - and this IS the point

Why do we continue to provide shelter to asylum seekers and illegal immigrants who break our laws once they're here? Utter madness. We should insist that shelter here is provided ON CONDITION they behave themselves and abide by OUR LAWS and OUR CUSTOMS. In other words, one strike and you're out.

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:21:31

Well, if you look at the crimes in my references, most were worst than the one where we had to "smell the coffee", but were only locally or local BBC reported, not in the nationals, including the DM, so point made, surely?

growstuff Tue 28-Oct-25 17:18:04

Wyllow3

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Wyllow3 maybe start a thread on white attackers?

GN would be overwhelmed!! hmm

I think I've possibly made my point already?

You have, but sadly people don't listen.

Casdon Tue 28-Oct-25 17:17:45

I looked on the Get Licensed site, which confirms that nearly 50,000 serious knife crimes were recorded in England from July 2023 to June 2024, so I’d agree that it is a big problem. However your chance of being stabbed by a migrant rather than by a UK citizen is very small indeed. Reporting in the media distorts the true picture.

growstuff Tue 28-Oct-25 17:17:28

LadyGracie

Mass deportations, I am not a racist but the majority of these people do not and will not integrate, ever.

These people? Who exactly are these people? My son-in-law's parents were immigrants. I assume you'd deport them.

How about Rishi Sunak's or Zia Yusuf's parents? What about Kemi Badenoch? Or Danny Kruger's parents?

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:15:00

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Wyllow3 maybe start a thread on white attackers?

GN would be overwhelmed!! hmm

I think I've possibly made my point already?

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:14:18

The problem is actually rising knife crime. We'd do better imo to focus on "what can be done".. As illustrated in the TV series, "Adolescence"

Babs03 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:13:45

LadyGracie

Mass deportations, I am not a racist but the majority of these people do not and will not integrate, ever.

You wouldn’t even know about those who are integrating because you never see them, they don’t make the news.

growstuff Tue 28-Oct-25 17:12:44

GrannyGravy13

Wyllow3 maybe start a thread on white attackers?

GN would be overwhelmed!! hmm

Babs03 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:12:38

There are very many stabbings in this country, perpetrated by gang members, drunks in numerous brawls after throwing out time at the weekend, and ‘usually’ male partners when committing domestic violence, am sure there are other examples.
This isn’t the monopoly of immigrants, far from it, but of course stabbings committed by immigrants, which are horrendous of course, make the headlines because the media knows its audience.
People are the same the world over.

growstuff Tue 28-Oct-25 17:12:10

Sago

I would like a simple rule, no papers, no ID then no entry.

What about stabbers who are born in the UK? There are plenty of them!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:11:49

Wyllow3 maybe start a thread on white attackers?

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:10:07

And to be PC, I went a visiting for coffee in Belfast

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czd02q89l78o

got the point yet?

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:06:36

So I visited Inverness

www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/man-faces-charges-of-repeatedly-stabbing-21-year-old-during-392732/

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:04:48

So I smelt the coffee Sago and choose Newcastle.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lqm1v3ml5o

Oh, its a white woman this time.

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:02:33

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cew4d1l4kr8o

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:02:10

I chose a town at complete random and looked for an equivalent, or worse crime.

Up popped this straightwayy - man and dog stabbed to death - by a local white man

Was this in the Daily Mail, readers? Shall I google some more examples for you?.

Mt61 Tue 28-Oct-25 17:01:02

Just an idea GS

Wyllow3 Tue 28-Oct-25 16:58:43

I think I've entered a parallel universe where crimes like this, sadly not unusual, are only given press interest when it's "an immigrant"

LadyGracie Tue 28-Oct-25 16:57:45

Mass deportations, I am not a racist but the majority of these people do not and will not integrate, ever.

Sago Tue 28-Oct-25 16:56:35

I would like a simple rule, no papers, no ID then no entry.

Franski Tue 28-Oct-25 16:56:03

Not sure what waking up and smelling the coffee means in this situation?

The Afghan man wasn't someone who arrived by small boat. I don't know his background but I presume he was an immigrant who sought and gained asylum in the UK fleeing from a Taliban controlled tyranny. I would do the same.
This stabbing was horrendous but it's no reason to judge all other immigrants now or in the future.
Have you seen knife crime figures lately? It is our very own young men who make up both perpetrators and victims.

growstuff Tue 28-Oct-25 16:55:53

Mt61

growstuff

Sago What actions would you like to see politicians to stop it?

Death penalty bringing back

Do you honestly think that would be a deterrent? The US has the death penalty and many times more homicides than the UK.