Moving immigrants to army camps?

Cossy

Allira

There's nothing wrong with Army camps.
Single accommodation for single men, flats or houses for families.

I've lived in service accommodation. It was fine, could have done with a bit of updating but it was perfectly functional.
We had to pay rent, despite beliefs to the contrary.

I agree, I think it would be a good move, though I doubt the people in those areas where these are situated would agree.

I doubt the people in Epping or elsewhere where migrants are housed in hotels are jumping with joy.

The fact is the U.K. has 1,000’s of migrants in small boats landing on its shores each year and they have to be housed somewhere whilst their asylum claims are processed.

If the government deports pdq all those who have been unsuccessful in their claims it would lessen the need for accommodation.

I am grateful to all the migrants who come here through legal channels and work in our NHS, Care System and elsewhere.

Wyllow3

JenniferEccles

They need to concentrate their efforts on stopping these migrants coming in the first place, not scratching heads about where to put them when they are here.

I know it’s been said many times before but we need an effective deterrent- something like, oh I don’t know, maybe a plan in place to send them to somewhere like Rwanda.

Hang on, wasn’t there such a plan until this ghastly, useless government abandoned it ?

In the meantime ex army camps will be cheaper and if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better.

You do realise that some irregular migrants are genuine asylum seekers, some coming from horrific situations?

so you want to punish them

"if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better."

Terrific. Britain at its best. So sad people should have this attitude. and yes, I say this, as Quakers locally are involved with and help out genuine, often shattered and troubled, people.

I went to a Quaker friends house Jennifer and met a young man from the Sudan. He was 16 so had left his home at 14 as both his parents had been murdered by machetes and they were recruiting child soldiers. Yes, for real. Poor lad just wanted to be a footballer (unlikely, but understandable)

And you all believed that? 🤔. They can spin any stories they like as most people know.

Allira

There's nothing wrong with Army camps.
Single accommodation for single men, flats or houses for families.

I've lived in service accommodation. It was fine, could have done with a bit of updating but it was perfectly functional.
We had to pay rent, despite beliefs to the contrary.

I agree, I think it would be a good move, though I doubt the people in those areas where these are situated would agree.

Kandinsky

Well, our own Home Secretary has this to say……
I know that asylum hotels are an absolute blight on our communities. I know that they've been the site of huge community tensions

An absolute blight on our communities…..that’s Labours view on the issue.

If she did indeed say that ‘our own Home Secretary’ is as vile as the past few tory ones.

A large motel on the edge of Preston has just closed to the general public in order to be allocated to migrants. So the government is lying through its teeth.

What's new?

They will need a lot of army camps, surely?

Aren’t there 32000 in hotels? And these two earmarked ones will hold 900? 🤔

Let’s hope there are many more waiting to be used.

Otherwise Keir’s dream of closing the hotels will remain just that, a dream.

Alongside ‘smashing the gangs’ of course.

What happens when they are full. Send them back to their country of origin, only have people by legal route. How long does it take to process people, no papers, no entry. They are as usual, not dealing with the problem which is costing us billions a year. Why do they come through many countries to get here?

Allira

^In the meantime ex army camps will be cheaper and if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better^.

I don't know why they should be uncomfortable.

🤔

If they are uncomfortable and restricted less will see the UK as the soft option

Why don’t they shift out some of the native British and give them their houses? 🏡 Only those with no papers, though.

Well, our own Home Secretary has this to say……
I know that asylum hotels are an absolute blight on our communities. I know that they've been the site of huge community tensions

An absolute blight on our communities…..that’s Labours view on the issue.

JenniferEccles

They need to concentrate their efforts on stopping these migrants coming in the first place, not scratching heads about where to put them when they are here.

I know it’s been said many times before but we need an effective deterrent- something like, oh I don’t know, maybe a plan in place to send them to somewhere like Rwanda.

Hang on, wasn’t there such a plan until this ghastly, useless government abandoned it ?

In the meantime ex army camps will be cheaper and if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better.

You do realise that some irregular migrants are genuine asylum seekers, some coming from horrific situations?

so you want to punish them

"if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better."

Terrific. Britain at its best. So sad people should have this attitude. and yes, I say this, as Quakers locally are involved with and help out genuine, often shattered and troubled, people.

I went to a Quaker friends house Jennifer and met a young man from the Sudan. He was 16 so had left his home at 14 as both his parents had been murdered by machetes and they were recruiting child soldiers. Yes, for real. Poor lad just wanted to be a footballer (unlikely, but understandable)

Cameron Barracks in Inverness was until recently, used by the MOD to house some of the thousands of Afghan families whose adults had risked their lives working for the UK armed forces in Kabul.

When the Taliban took Kabul, those people had to be evacuated to safety. Many were left behind.

Among the boat people coming to UK, one of the highest national groups, are Afghans.
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JenniferEccles

They need to concentrate their efforts on stopping these migrants coming in the first place, not scratching heads about where to put them when they are here.

I know it’s been said many times before but we need an effective deterrent- something like, oh I don’t know, maybe a plan in place to send them to somewhere like Rwanda.

Hang on, wasn’t there such a plan until this ghastly, useless government abandoned it ?

In the meantime ex army camps will be cheaper and if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better.

👏👏👏👏👏👏

In the meantime ex army camps will be cheaper and if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better.

I don't know why they should be uncomfortable.

🤔

kircubbin2000

I don't think they have a clue how to solve this. Being in camps will be no different. They will complain. The locals will complain. Girls will get raped and locals upset.

Here we go again. Being an irregular migrant means girls will get raped.

Actually I will report this, it is a vile and gross generalisation, and ask them to delete this to if they delete that.

They need to concentrate their efforts on stopping these migrants coming in the first place, not scratching heads about where to put them when they are here.

I know it’s been said many times before but we need an effective deterrent- something like, oh I don’t know, maybe a plan in place to send them to somewhere like Rwanda.

Hang on, wasn’t there such a plan until this ghastly, useless government abandoned it ?

In the meantime ex army camps will be cheaper and if they are sufficiently uncomfortable, so much the better.

Can they keep up with demand though? Over 1,000 arriving every week. Still they come.

That’s a lot of beds, blankets and breakfasts to get ready….

They’ve only had a year to waste millions, the last lot had much longer and spent even more
It’s a tough problem, or no doubt the Conservatives or current govt would have solved it

Will it be any cheaper? They’ve wasted millions already.

Trouble is the Labour luvvies will say it’s not good enough for the migrants and so it goes on.

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Allira

There's nothing wrong with Army camps.
Single accommodation for single men, flats or houses for families.

I've lived in service accommodation. It was fine, could have done with a bit of updating but it was perfectly functional.
We had to pay rent, despite beliefs to the contrary.

Ditto, Allira

If it was good enough for us…..

I agree Oreo that it's better late than never.

There's nothing wrong with Army camps.
Single accommodation for single men, flats or houses for families.

I've lived in service accommodation. It was fine, could have done with a bit of updating but it was perfectly functional.
We had to pay rent, despite beliefs to the contrary.

They should be set to work to build their own hostel accommodation within a secure perimeter.

A lot of money was spent on that boat the Bibby Stockholm to equip it. Why can't that be reinstated as accommodation?