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The man formerly known as Prince can fall no further....

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LovesBach Thu 30-Oct-25 19:07:24

Breaking news is that Andrew will now be Andrew Mountbatten - Windsor, his title is no longer, and he will move out of Royal Lodge.

ronib Mon 03-Nov-25 19:02:57

It has just been reported that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

Anniebach Mon 03-Nov-25 19:03:34

The media claims he is MOnica, much has been reported for years of Edward , living for years with Sophie in Buckingham palace, before marriage, shocking , he took over his fathers name and charities , coincidence no doubt

Ilovecheese Mon 03-Nov-25 19:10:53

ronib

It has just been reported that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

Why would people in America, near Capital Hill, be watching the BBC.

ronib Mon 03-Nov-25 19:16:33

Well perhaps more information will filter through over the next few days. The whole BBC board is implicated.

eazybee Mon 03-Nov-25 19:20:56

Do you believe that this is a series of bizarre lies and coincidences....
No I do not, and I do not think I have ever expressed that opinion.
I said, Let it rest.

Smileless2012 Mon 03-Nov-25 19:31:37

In response to your earlier question Doodledog I don't think it's necessary to use derogatory language about Andrew or VG which ever one you think is lying.

When I posted about baying, I was referring to comments about Andrew being boiled in oil; that he's a paedophile; Sandringham's too good for him; he should be locked up; he should be deported etc. and then there are the attacks on Sarah and the daughters.

We all know or at least should know that sometimes there is smoke without fire Casdon. Cliff Richard to name one and more recently Charles Hanson, accused by his wife of assaulting her and coercive control; he was cleared at his trial.

I remember seeing posts here on GN about there being something about him that posters didn't like. It happens every time a celebrity has accusations made against them. I bet people were saying 'there's no smoke without fire' about him too, but they were wrong weren't they.

Iam64 Mon 03-Nov-25 19:35:24

Ilovecheese

ronib

It has just been reported that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

Why would people in America, near Capital Hill, be watching the BBC.

I read the a guardian report in this ronib. That led me to conclude you’re manipulating the report to suggest the bbc encouraged the riot. Nope that was Mr Trunp

Quite how this allegation contributes to discussion of AMW is a bit of a mystery, except of course it adds to your attempts to undermine any suggestion that women and girls (and boys) were horrifically exploited and abused by AMW’s close friends

Anniebach Mon 03-Nov-25 19:39:49

Iam when I spoke of Andrew being sexually abused age 11 you said “many went on to live happy lives” did you mean boys and girls or just boys ?

Mollygo Mon 03-Nov-25 19:41:32

No I don’t think it’s a bizarre series, but do keep digging and don't complain that others are digging into VG’s life.
Hearsay is so useful.

ronib Mon 03-Nov-25 19:41:42

Just filtering the information at the moment. Am shocked that any news provider like the BBC has such little integrity and credibility. If Trump’s speech can so easily be doctored and distorted then who else is fair game?

Iam64 Mon 03-Nov-25 19:42:37

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Anniebach Mon 03-Nov-25 19:46:07

One child is not many

Allira Mon 03-Nov-25 19:49:50

ronib

It has just been reported that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

I doubt the BBC has that much influence over US citizens!

Iam64 Mon 03-Nov-25 19:50:40

That’s really rather cruel Annie. I shared info I’ve never shared before and wish I hadn’t. fwiw I could list many brave survivors and many abusers not brought to any kind of justice.
I’m out

Anniebach Mon 03-Nov-25 19:53:57

Me too Iam thank you

imaround Mon 03-Nov-25 20:04:59

ronib

It has just been reported that the BBC doctored footage of Trump’s speech to encourage a riot on Capital Hill in 2021.

I ask this sincerely. What does this have to do with AMW?

ronib Mon 03-Nov-25 20:10:15

Quite obviously if a video can be doctored, how easy is it to doctor shall we say a photo?

imaround Mon 03-Nov-25 20:15:49

That is what I figured, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

I will have to look up the accusation as I haven't been paying attention today. The video has been out there for everyone to see since 2021, and we all saw it happen live. This should be an easy thing to solve.

Casdon Mon 03-Nov-25 20:24:08

Smileless2012

In response to your earlier question Doodledog I don't think it's necessary to use derogatory language about Andrew or VG which ever one you think is lying.

When I posted about baying, I was referring to comments about Andrew being boiled in oil; that he's a paedophile; Sandringham's too good for him; he should be locked up; he should be deported etc. and then there are the attacks on Sarah and the daughters.

We all know or at least should know that sometimes there is smoke without fire Casdon. Cliff Richard to name one and more recently Charles Hanson, accused by his wife of assaulting her and coercive control; he was cleared at his trial.

I remember seeing posts here on GN about there being something about him that posters didn't like. It happens every time a celebrity has accusations made against them. I bet people were saying 'there's no smoke without fire' about him too, but they were wrong weren't they.

Neither of those cases are similar to the Andrew case though Smileless2012, are they? There was no corroborative evidence, in Hansen’s case it was his wife’s word against his. There were no emails, photographs or witnesses either. This feels quite different to me, in this case I do believe there is fire. I’d be pleased to be wrong, but I don’t think I will be, there is just too much coming out.

Casdon Mon 03-Nov-25 20:30:02

eazybee

^Do you believe that this is a series of bizarre lies and coincidences....^
No I do not, and I do not think I have ever expressed that opinion.
I said, Let it rest.

That’s why I asked you eazybee, I wasn’t sure what you were saying. It won’t be left to rest, I think we can be confident there is going to be more.

Smileless2012 Mon 03-Nov-25 20:30:24

For me the similarities are the way people are jumping to conclusions without any real evidence Casdon.

I'm not sure in this case, I have my doubts about both of them TBH but it's the trial by media that I'm finding distasteful.

Anniebach Mon 03-Nov-25 20:43:55

It’s vile Smileless

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Casdon Mon 03-Nov-25 20:44:21

I do know what you mean about the trial by media Smileless2012, I don’t like them raking over the coals constantly either. However, I think that when new information from reliable sources is available it should be published, which includes the emails. Some of the recent information published is of a very serious nature, and it is unlikely that without clear evidence behind it, they would be putting it out there, it’s gone beyond insinuations.

M0nica Mon 03-Nov-25 21:57:16

Anniebach

The media claims he is MOnica, much has been reported for years of Edward , living for years with Sophie in Buckingham palace, before marriage, shocking , he took over his fathers name and charities , coincidence no doubt

This is exactly my point Anniebach everyones says it, but no one ever uts forward any examples of this happening.

Looking it up, it seems that Sophie had an apartment of her own in Buck House, as did Prince Edward, so they did not actually cohabit but I expect they were always both in one apartment or the other, call it what you like.

Anniebach Mon 03-Nov-25 22:07:47

Yes *MOnica , seems when Phillip died and the family attended Church, during Covid, recently it’s claimed Andrew accompanied his mother because he was her favourite, no, he was single his brothers married